British Master title (1972)

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Frederick Rhine » Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:25 pm

And, I should add to my prior post, that some of the MN4s are actually MN3s.

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Gareth Harley-Yeo » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:27 am

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
E Michael White wrote:When E G Sergeant played in the British in 1959 he played against the less well known F Clough and D G Ellison who may turn out to be the English veteran player George Ellison and the Welsh veteran Fred Clough. Both these players played rated games earlier this year and would be M3s.
I believe you are correct in both cases.

Of course, George remains active in the Blackpool area chess scene. Fred was a fellow member of Poulton-le-Fylde CC in the 1970s and 80s.
Fred is still an active member of 'Upper Killay Chess Club', which I believe is near Swansea. His rating details can be found here: http://www.nidumchessclub.co.uk/grading/p26.php

I'm set to play him on Wednesday night so I'll find out first hand how good he still is, or maybe how bad I am :)

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Frederick Rhine » Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:29 am

If when you see him you could confirm whether he is indeed the F. Clough who played Sergeant in the 1959 Championship, that would be good. Thanks.

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Gareth Harley-Yeo » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:49 am

Frederick Rhine wrote:If when you see him you could confirm whether he is indeed the F. Clough who played Sergeant in the 1959 Championship, that would be good. Thanks.
Sorry, I didn't read this until after I'd beaten him. From his age and the way my club mates were speaking of him I'm fairly certain he is the F. Clough in question. I also believe he's a member of the British Correspondence Chess Association if that helps?

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by E Michael White » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:06 am

... and within 10 hours of completion the game is rated by the WCU !

http://www.nidumchessclub.co.uk/grading/p26.php

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Gareth Harley-Yeo » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:00 am

E Michael White wrote:... and within 10 hours of completion the game is rated by the WCU !

http://www.nidumchessclub.co.uk/grading/p26.php
It was done within an hour of the game actually - they all are. Match cards are sent to the league sec' to update the tables and to the grading officer to update the rating.

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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:45 pm

Frederick Rhine wrote:If when you see him you could confirm whether he is indeed the F. Clough who played Sergeant in the 1959 Championship, that would be good. Thanks.
Yes, it is. One of his fellow members at Poulton-le-Fylde confirmed his participation in that particular British Championship (and a few others) back in the 1980s.
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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:07 pm

Fred Clough takes pride of place in Gary Lane's latest column in Chess Cafe.com, BTW.

Born in the same year as Korchnoi, good to see him too still going strong :)
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Re: British Master title (1972)

Post by Stewart Reuben » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:38 pm

I had reason to research Malcolm Firth today. Whatever happened to him?
But while doing so, I realised that EG Sergeant is a Morphy 2. That means I am a Morphy 3 as I played him in 1955 when 16. I played a fair amount in the US and thus would have made all my opponents Morphy 4.

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