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Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:43 pm
by John Saunders
Brian Denman wrote:The following game was played in the British at Bournemouth in 1936:
Noel-Johnson,RC - Winter,W [A45]
British Championship at Bournemouth (4), 11.06.1936
1.d4 Nf6 2.e3 g6 3.Bd3 d6 4.Ne2 Bg7 5.0-0 0-0 6.c4 e5 7.Nbc3 Nc6 8.d5 Nb4 9.e4 Nxd3 10.Qxd3 Nd7 11.Be3 f5 12.f3 f4 13.Bf2 g5 14.b4 Nf6 15.Kh1 g4 16.c5 Nh5 17.fxg4 Bxg4 18.Ng1 Qg5 19.Nf3 Qh6 20.Ne2 Rf7 21.Rac1 Raf8 22.Rc3 Qg6 23.cxd6 cxd6 24.b5 Nf6 25.Rc4 Bh6 26.Nh4 Qh5 27.Ng1 Bd7 28.a4 Ng4 29.Qe2 Bg5 30.Nhf3 Bd8 31.h3 Nxf2+ 32.Qxf2 Rg7 33.Rfc1 Rg3 34.Qf1 Bb6 35.R1c2 Bxg1 36.Nxg1 f3 37.Kh2 Qh4 38.gxf3 Rfxf3 39.Qxf3 Rxf3 40.Nxf3 Qxh3+ 41.Kg1 Qxf3 42.Rc7 Bg4 43.Rxb7 h5 44.a5 h4 45.Rf2 Qg3+ 46.Rg2 Qe3+ 47.Rf2 Bf3 Source: The Field of 27.6.1936. 0-1
That one I do have, in fact, but there is a slight difference in the score I have on Britbase, with the moves 40.Rg2+ Kh8 interpolated, thus...
The version I have comes from William Winter's memoirs but who knows which one is correct?
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:04 am
by Roger de Coverly
Brian Denman wrote:The following game was played in the British at Bournemouth in 1936:
Noel-Johnson,RC - Winter,W [A45]
British Championship at Bournemouth (4), 11.06.1936
In pgn format
It seems to take Winter a surprisingly long time to demolish his opponent after 1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 g6 3. Bd3, but you might hope the 2016 event shows a higher standard of play in the British Championships at least.
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:37 pm
by Brian Denman
Regarding the Noel-Johnson v Winter game, I suspect that the extra moves of 40 Rg2+ Kh8 were actually played. Without these moves 43 Rxb7 would surely have been met with Qd1+ winning a rook. It is unlikely that Black would have missed this.
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:15 pm
by Brian Denman
I have now checked through my notes from a few years ago and I see that 40 Rg2+ Kh8 was actually played in the Noel-Johnson v Winter game. I am sorry that I made a mistake when transcribing the game into ChessBase.
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:46 pm
by John Saunders
I'm only too grateful for your help, Brian, both now and on many occasions in the past. I've updated the file on Britbase.
Incidentally, in the next hour or so I'm going to upload to Britbase a file of games from the British Championship in Edinburgh in 1926, with much help from Gerard Killoran.
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:18 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Roger de Coverly wrote:
It seems to take Winter a surprisingly long time to demolish his opponent after 1. d4 Nf6 2. e3 g6 3. Bd3, but you might hope the 2016 event shows a higher standard of play in the British Championships at least.
Said set-up is not the most dynamic, I quite agree, but a database check reveals it has been played as White by several master strength players including a few modern GMs. After all, none of the moves involved are actually
bad.......
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:11 am
by John Saunders
The Glasgow 1911 file has been updated...
http://www.saund.co.uk/britbase/pgn/191 ... iewer.html
It now has 30 of a possible 66 games, thanks to two additions and one correction received from Roger Watson, who has been checking for scores in the Manchester Guardian archive.
The additions are Palmer-Blackburne (Rd 3) and Yates-McKee (Rd 11), which now have the substantial part of the scores in each case. Roger also pointed to a very different game score in Yates-Palmer (Rd 4). I believe his new version to be the correct one, and the old one is from a match between the same two players in Bradford, also in 1911. (I have included the Bradford game as a variation.)
Many thanks to Roger Watson for his help in tracing these games.
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:25 am
by Brian Denman
I notice that the BCF Year-Book of 1912 includes (on page 204) one game from the Major Open section of the 1911 BCF Congress at Glasgow.
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Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:16 am
by John Saunders
Many thanks, Brian. I've added that game to the Britbase file.
Re: British Championship games from 1911 and 1936
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:03 pm
by Tim Harding
I have not found any additional games by Blackburne from the 1911 British Championship so far, but I do have additional descriptive comments on some of the missing games in my book.