Technical chess questions

Technical questions regarding Openings, Middlegames, Endings etc.
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Technical chess questions

Post by John Upham » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:43 am

Open suggestion to CH :

Can you create a Forum for the discussion of technical chess type queries?

It would make a good addition to all the heavy political stuff that mostly appears IMHO.

I realise ChessPublishing.Com exists for this type of stuff but it would be good for this forum and might attract some new blood. :D

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Paul McKeown » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:09 am

I agree! A forum called [i]Chess[/i] about.... Chess!

To kick it off, I would post a 46 page article about the well-known Popov/Larsen/Sowray variation of the Alekhine's Defence, which I wrote about a year and a half ago, but never sent for publication, although I'm sure its of a sufficiently high standard.

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by John Upham » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:13 am

Paul,

Sounds great! What is this line? Is it 1. e4 Sf6 2. Lc4!? which deserves a few more outings! :lol:
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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:23 am

John Upham wrote:Open suggestion to CH :

Can you create a Forum for the discussion of technical chess type queries?

It would make a good addition to all the heavy political stuff that mostly appears IMHO.

I realise ChessPublishing.Com exists for this type of stuff but it would be good for this forum and might attract some new blood. :D

J.
What a new section within this forum?

Come up with a name and a simple description for the home page and this can be organised
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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:37 am

Come up with a name and a simple description for the home page
How about

Chess Questions

as the title

and

Openings, Middlegames, Endings etc.

as the description.

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Paul McKeown » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:21 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:Sounds great! What is this line? Is it 1. e4 Sf6 2. Lc4!? which deserves a few more outings! :lol:
I'm glad you were laughing, John, but no, 1. e4 Sf6 2. Lc4?! is not a move I have ever spent a lot of time considering: it's not really sound - and worse for White, the ideas behind it are rather transparent, so Black is not likely to fall for anything. At least I won't. :mrgreen: Actually, the Blackmar-Diemer, for instance, is more dangerous (if even less sound - I just loved Andy Martin describing it as "Shopping for a Tombstone"), because White just gets on with developing his pieces to good squares and just waits to see what mistakes Black will make, whereas this 2. Lc4 move just forces things too much.

No. Lluben Popov and some Bulgarians invented the idea of 1. e4 Sf6 2. e5 Sd5 3. d4 d6 4. Sf3 dxe5 5. Sxe5 Sd7in the early 60's, Larsen famously dared it against Tal', but it was England's very own Pete Sowray who did most of the theoretical groundwork which got people playing it from time to time. Sadly some careless Russian GM (with cybernetic assistance) has now comprehensively busted it. The article tells the story; the first serious article I have ever written about a chess opening - and how I now have had to give it up, never to play it again. :(

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Ben Purton » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:41 pm

Hi Paul

Maybe if it was narrowed from 46 to 15 it could be a sub-line chapter in a book.

I do like Andys Videos. Sambuca Sharks use to ocassionally stick one of 3 videos we have lying around the house on. Only one is Andys, the Czech Benoni video but we quote from it as a joke etc when we play the opening.

I love the Evans Gambit, The Fryed Liver(spelling) and the Lowenthal Sicillean as quick attacking lines which dont directly lose.

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by andrew martin » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:47 pm

So you make fun of the Czech Benoni DVD Ben ? You are just jealous that you cannot copy my hairstyle.

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Paul McKeown » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:52 pm

andrew martin wrote:So you make fun of the Czech Benoni DVD Ben ? You are just jealous that you cannot copy my hairstyle.
Toupé .... er, I mean .... Touché

'Fraid I could, though...

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Paul McKeown » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:56 pm

Ben Purton wrote:Maybe if it was narrowed from 46 to 15 it could be a sub-line chapter in a book.
Doubt it, Ben, who would want to play a line that has been comprehensively holed below the water line? All people will be interested in is the torpedo... I worry that this is going to be only the first of many marginal opening lines that are going to be cybernetically trashed over the coming years...

I always did love running around with my (Black) king on a4 or somewhere else equally ludicrous for the opening!

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Ben Purton » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:08 pm

Andy I would argue me , cod and sam have watched the video more times than any other person on earth. We all played the opening for years, cod still does.

emms V Hodgson- classic game :).

Sharks use to have Joe Redpath in our side who was famous for playing Czech system alot V Motwani in Scottish Tournaments.


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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Ben Purton » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:11 pm

Paul if you like King runs, Ezra Lutton used this opening to win the young masters challengers in 2003:

e4 Nc6 Nf3 f5..

Roberson V Lutton is the 2100 Versioon Of Morozevich V Sutovsky(4ncl 2004?)
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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by John Upham » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:25 pm

Ben Purton wrote:Andy I would argue me , cod and sam have watched the video more times than any other person on earth. We all played the opening for years, cod still does.

emms V Hodgson- classic game :).
Ben
Ben, I think you mean the Czech Pirc (rather than Czech Benoni) as played by Vlastimil Jansa and the dastardly Pribyl brothers (they used to hit each other with clubs on Wacky Races :lol: ).

The Emms - Hodgson game is hilarious : I'd love to have seen Emms reaction when Julian played f5! :shock:

What an imaginative player Julian was and how we miss him...

He deserves a best games anthology someone??
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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by Paul McKeown » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:37 pm

Ben Purton wrote:emms V Hodgson- classic game :).
Ben Purton wrote:Roberson V Lutton
Ben, could you post the pgn for these games to the forum, please?

Ta!

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Re: Technical chess questions

Post by John Upham » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:17 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
Ben Purton wrote:emms V Hodgson- classic game :).
Ta!
[Event "BCF-ch 76th"]
[Site "Plymouth"]
[Date "1989.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Emms, John M"]
[Black "Hodgson, Julian M"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B07"]
[WhiteElo "2300"]
[BlackElo "2535"]
[PlyCount "54"]
[EventDate "1989.07.??"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "11"]
[EventCountry "ENG"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2004.01.01"]

1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 c6 4. f4 Qa5 5. Qf3 d5 6. e5 Ne4 7. Bd3 Na6 8. Nge2
Nb4 9. Bxe4 dxe4 10. Qxe4 f5 :shock: 11. exf6 Bf5 12. Qf3 Nxc2+ 13. Kf2 O-O-O 14. g4
Nxa1 15. gxf5 Qxf5 16. Rd1 exf6 17. Ne4 Re8 18. N2c3 Kb8 19. d5 Bb4 20. dxc6
bxc6 21. Bd2 Nc2 22. Qd3 Bxc3 23. Qd6+ Kb7 24. Nxc3 Rd8 25. Qe7+ Rd7 26. Qe4
Qxe4 27. Nxe4 Rd5 0-1
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