2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:24 pm

In passing, an arbiter once intervened in one of my games due to a dress code issue.

I was wearing a t-shirt with a cartoon of a spider on it. My opponent raised arachnophobia with Jack Spiegel. I put my jumper back on.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:26 pm

Giri - Ivanchuk. (white to play)



A known position, Giri has never had it. Ivanchuk once as white back 2006.

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Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:26 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote: A known position, Giri has never had it. Ivanchuk once as white back 2006.
Sometimes known as the Gallagher variation. Black's usual idea is to lash out with c5 and b5 at some stage.

(after White's move 23) It looks more like a Modern Benoni now, .. c5 was duly played .


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Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:26 pm

Bu-Svidler & Grischuk-MVL were uneventful draws. Elsewhere Aronian is a pawn down and Giri is worse in his must win game.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:50 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:Well, for me the trouble for Jobava is when he plays White!
Agreed, although today's position looks quite promising.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:05 pm

Giri - Ivanchuk (Black to play)



Giri taking risks to mix it, WAs not looking too good for him.
Once that Knight dug in on d4 it was always difficult. Only thing I
could think of as a must win was chop the knight for a Rook, nick
the re-taking pawn with the King and invade deep into the queenside
with the King.

Only five minutes difference between the times.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by John McKenna » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:25 pm

"Only thing I could think of as a must win was chop the knight for a Rook, nick the re-taking pawn with the King and invade deep into the queenside with the King."

Geoff, that's worse than wearing shorts and tantamount to going commando - leaving yourself totally exposed in front and behind- John.
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Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:31 pm

Giri - Ivanchuk Black to play



It does appear Giri is trying save it rather than win it.
White needs a big unforced blunder.

Times practically level. TT will not be an issue unless Giri
tries the old get into time trouble trick but Ivanchuk is to
long in the tooth to fall for that one.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Geoff Chandler » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:36 pm

Hi John,

Drastic action was called for. The Knight has to go to make any progress. Giri must win.

Played with confidence and a poker face these things work....sometimes.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:37 pm

surprising to think that of all the 16 left, it should be Giri who is most obviously on his way out right now.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:38 pm

Dubov perhaps being the next "troubled"

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by John McKenna » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:41 pm

Not sure who is to move on that position given by Geoff, above, but not expecting Rxd4 anytime at all.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:42 pm

Fedoseev v Rodshtein is interesting: White's mishandled the liquidation to get the draw he needs to progress and while he presumably still ought to get it, it's not so simple.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:51 pm

Also it will surprise me if Giri bothers significantly beyond move 40, if at all
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:02 pm

we can probably also pencil in Ding Liren, who can then spend tomorrow hoping that he too doesn't have to play Rapport.

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