European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby Mick Norris » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:28 am

round 5 board pairings

Naiditsch - Kramnik as expected; no Shak, with Grischuk white on board 2

Another GM for Dan Abbas on top board for 3Cs
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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:34 am

Mick Norris wrote:round 5 board pairings

Naiditsch - Kramnik as expected; no Shak, with Grischuk white on board 2

Another GM for Dan Abbas on top board for 3Cs


A surprise, I thought their plan was to have Mamedyarov, Karjakin & Nepo white in the big matches and Kramnik, Grischuk, Giri black. Possibly playing Mamedov didn't appeal.

Bo. 23 3CS Rtg - 19 Fjölnir Chess Club Rtg 0 : 0
11.1 FM Abbas, Daniel 2329 - GM Steingrimsson, Hedinn 2576
11.2 FM Longson, Alexander 2317 - FM Johannesson, Oliver 2273
11.3 FM Ashton, Adam G 2347 - FM Bjornsson, Sigurbjorn 2277
11.4 IM Quillan, Gary 2347 - FM Kjartansson, David 2386
11.5 CM Walton, Alan J 2207 - Hardarson, Jon Trausti 2146
11.6 WFM Longson, Sarah N 2102 - FM Bjornsson, Tomas 2130

Bo. 25 Club Gambit Bonnevoie Rtg - 24 White Rose Rtg 0 : 0
16.1 GM Tratar, Marko 2456 - GM Wells, Peter K 2447
16.2 Bjarnason, Oskar 2245 - IM Van, De Griendt Jan Willem 2354
16.3 FM Bednarich, Jan 2224 - FM Gantner, Matthias 2324
16.4 FM Upton, Timothy J 2164 - Townsend, M Paul 2194
16.5 Stanic, Zoran 2169 - Barrett, Stephen J 2101
16.6 Visintin, Roberto 2055 -O'Driscoll, Kieran 2081

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:35 pm

After four draws in the top match boards 1 & 2 have burst into life in the time scrambles.

3Cs are 2-1 ahead and White Rose have already won their match, currently 3.5-0.5 ahead.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:42 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:After four draws in the top match boards 1 & 2 have burst into life in the time scrambles.


At move 41 it's fair to say the positions haven't gone the way the top seeds were hoping.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby John Moore » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:07 pm

Van de Griendt on Board 2 for White Rose had a completely crazy game. Absolutely dead lost at one point being a whole Rook down but Black managed to get all of his pieces on bad squares leaving his King and a couple of pawns to fight against a White Rook, Bishop and Knight. Then around the time control, Van de Griendt (in some time trouble) managed to find a three fold repetition with a Nf5 to g7 and back to f5.

Then at some point in thinking what a genius I am for saving this, he realised with the N on f5, Be2 actually wins. Unfortunately, with his N on g7, he has to start this idea with 41 Nf5 again. At this point, his opponent (and bear in mind that they are past the time control) should simply claim three fold repetition with 41 .. Kh5 and he thought for about ten minutes for no reason that I can discern and then played Kh5 on the board! Now 42 Be2 wins after 42 .. Kg6 43 Nh4 ch but ChessBomb at least is showing this as a draw.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby John Moore » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:08 pm

Or perhaps he did claim the draw after Kh5 and the remaining moves weren't played on the board - that might make more sense.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby NickFaulks » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:50 pm

John Moore wrote: At this point, his opponent (and bear in mind that they are past the time control) should simply claim three fold repetition with 41 .. Kh5 and he thought for about ten minutes for no reason that I can discern

From what I've heard he wrote down the move and claimed the draw, but it took a while to find an arbiter to confirm it.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby John Moore » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:00 pm

Thanks Nick. A game to encourage all of us and, in some ways, what chess is all about - a great fight.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:01 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:After four draws in the top match boards 1 & 2 have burst into life in the time scrambles.


At move 41 it's fair to say the positions haven't gone the way the top seeds were hoping.


Kramnik managed to draw but Grischuk looks like he's losing to Mamedov which would give Odlar Yurdu a 3.5-2.5 victory and leave them as the only team on 100% and two points clear of the field. They also lead in the women's event although possibly only jointly.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby John Moore » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm

They'll be singing in the streets of Odlar Yurdu tonight - with apologies to all who have done this joke before.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:18 pm

John Moore wrote:They'll be singing in the streets of Odlar Yurdu tonight - with apologies to all who have done this joke before.


They may not be singing anymore as Grischuk may now escape with a draw.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:23 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
John Moore wrote:They'll be singing in the streets of Odlar Yurdu tonight - with apologies to all who have done this joke before.


They may not be singing anymore as Grischuk may now escape with a draw.


Yes, Grischuk saves so 3-3 and these two teams on 9 points with (I think) four others on 8.

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:24 pm

Two good wins from the English teams today:

Bo. 23 3CS Rtg - 19 Fjölnir Chess Club Rtg 3½:2½
11.1 FM Abbas, Daniel 2329 - GM Steingrimsson, Hedinn 2576 ½ - ½
11.2 FM Longson, Alexander 2317 - FM Johannesson, Oliver 2273 ½ - ½
11.3 FM Ashton, Adam G 2347 - FM Bjornsson, Sigurbjorn 2277 1 - 0
11.4 IM Quillan, Gary 2347 - FM Kjartansson, David 2386 0 - 1
11.5 CM Walton, Alan J 2207 - Hardarson, Jon Trausti 2146 1 - 0
11.6 WFM Longson, Sarah N 2102 - FM Bjornsson, Tomas 2130 ½ - ½

Bo. 25 Club Gambit Bonnevoie Rtg - 24 White Rose Rtg 2 : 4
16.1 GM Tratar, Markov 2456 - GM Wells, Peter K 2447 1 - 0
16.2 Bjarnason, Oskar 2245 - IM Van, De Griendt Jan Willem 2354 ½ - ½
16.3 FM Bednarich, Jan 2224 - FM Gantner, Matthias 2324 0 - 1
16.4 FM Upton, Timothy J 2164 - Townsend, M Paul 2194 0 - 1
16.5 Stanic, Zoran 2169 - Barrett, Stephen J 2101 0 - 1
16.6 Visintin, Roberto 2055 - O'Driscoll, Kieran 2081 ½ - ½

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby LawrenceCooper » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:18 am

Bo. 16 Beşiktaş Jimnastik Kulübü Rtg - 23 3CS Rtg 0 : 0
7.1 GM Sanal, Vahap 2549 - FM Abbas, Daniel 2329
7.2 IM Atakisi, Umut 2361 - FM Longson, Alexander 2317
7.3 WGM Ozturk, Kubra 2364 - FM Ashton, Adam G 2347
7.4 CM Burcu, Cagatay 2283 - IM Quillan, Gary 2347
7.5 FM Apaydin, Fethi 2262 - CM Walton, Alan J 2207
7.6 Sahin, Ozgun 2210 - WFM Longson, Sarah N 2102

Bo. 24 White Rose Rtg - 17 LSK 'MAKABI' Rtg 0 : 0
11.1 GM Wells, Peter K 2447 - IM Kazakovskiy, Valeriy 2420
11.2 IM Van, De Griendt Jan Willem 2354 - GM Zagorskis, Darius 2443
11.3 FM Gantner, Matthias 2324 - Germanavicius, Sarunas 2326
11.4 Townsend, M Paul 2194 - Burstein, Roman 2322
11.5 Barrett, Stephen J 2101 - Baliasnyj, Timur 2218
11.6 O'Driscoll, Kieran 2081 - Olkhovskiy, Alexander 2133

Bo. 2 Alkaloid Rtg - 1 Globus Rtg 0 : 0
1.1 GM Ding, Liren 2772 - GM Kramnik, Vladimir 2794
1.2 GM Eljanov, Pavel 2720 - GM Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar 2791
1.3 GM Andreikin, Dmitry 2705 - GM Grischuk, Alexander 2785
1.4 GM Yu, Yangyi 2743 - GM Karjakin, Sergey 2765
1.5 GM Jakovenko, Dmitry 2710 - GM Giri, Anish 2762
1.6 GM Kryvoruchko, Yuriy 2692 - GM Nepomniachtchi, Ian 2733

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Re: European Club Cup 8-14 October, Antalya

Postby Jonathan Rogers » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:52 pm

Globus, a team which could almost play in any order, seem to play as one in all sorts of respects. They seem either all to win or all to draw each day.

Setbacks for the English teams, though again 3Cs had some bright spots. Most of them seem to have had some good results, and playing Ashton and Quillan on boards 3 and 4 seems to have been a well judged decision. But as ever, how well the event will be remembered in competitive terms is likely disproportionately to depend on the last round.


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