Carlsen vs Nakamura

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Kevin Thurlow
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Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:04 pm

As everyone else is ignoring this...

See http://www.frchess.com/

A Chess960 (Fischer Random) match. So far there have been three draws and Magnus won the last game.

Very entertaining commentary by Yasser Seirawan etc. I think it starts at 4 pm every day. Coverage is really good. Pulse meters (which don't always work) are attached to the players. In game 4, Magnus was a respectable 85 and Hikaru a worrying 135!

Putting my own post off topic, is everyone ignoring Karpov 3.5-2.5 Hou Yifan as well?

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Steven DuCharme » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:53 pm

I didn't know Karpov-Hou was a thing until recently. Naka took game one today. Carlsen didn't stay to chat about it :(
I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight :mrgreen:

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:05 pm

Something rather odd has just happened at the end of game 8.

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:23 pm

Illegal move?

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:51 pm

Carlsen messed up a winning ending and could only get R+B v R, which he lost on time.

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:58 pm

I noticed he had R&B v R, but presumed impossible he would lose that on time. Are the games without increment?

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Alex Holowczak » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:11 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:58 pm
I noticed he had R&B v R, but presumed impossible he would lose that on time. Are the games without increment?
Yes. Deemed more exciting by TV, I gather.

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:19 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:11 pm
Yes. Deemed more exciting by TV, I gather.
Would they have allowed 10.2/Appendix G/(whatever it's now called) claims? Not by Naka but by Carlsen so he would avoid a loss on time?

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Alex Holowczak » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:55 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:19 pm
Alex Holowczak wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:11 pm
Yes. Deemed more exciting by TV, I gather.
Would they have allowed 10.2/Appendix G/(whatever it's now called) claims? Not by Naka but by Carlsen so he would avoid a loss on time?
It's now called Guideline III, but I don't know.

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:07 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:19 pm
Would they have allowed 10.2/Appendix G/(whatever it's now called) claims? Not by Naka but by Carlsen so he would avoid a loss on time?
Who knows? FIDE Laws don't necessarily apply in unofficial games. He could certainly have accepted one of Nakamura's draw offers. If he had managed to obtain a winning position, Naka would have claimed a 50 move draw, so the whole thing was absurd.

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:04 pm

It was absurd but Carlsen's own fault nonetheless, he could easily have forced a draw when running low on time.
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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:37 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:19 pm
Would they have allowed 10.2/Appendix G/(whatever it's now called) claims? Not by Naka but by Carlsen so he would avoid a loss on time?
Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:55 am
It's now called Guideline III, but I don't know.
NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:07 am
Who knows? FIDE Laws don't necessarily apply in unofficial games.
From the Regulations for the event:

"The games will be played in accordance with the FIDE laws of chess, including the appendix for 960 chess"

Guidelines III is not mentioned:

From Guidelines III:

"The Guidelines below concerning the final period of the game including Quickplay Finishes, shall only be used at an event if their use has been announced beforehand."

I think it's clear that Guidelines III do not apply.

(NB The title really is "Guidelines III", in the plural.)

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Steven DuCharme » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:28 pm

Nakamura crushes Carlsen on the last day 8-0! Carlsen quits chess forever! Earth renamed Naka!
I float like a pawn island and sting like an ignored knight :mrgreen:

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Re: Carlsen vs Nakamura

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:32 pm

Steven DuCharme wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:28 pm
Nakamura crushes Carlsen on the last day 8-0! Carlsen quits chess forever! Earth renamed Naka!
Back in the real world:

Carlsen adds a new title: Chess960 champion

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