FIDE internal fighting

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:43 am

FIDE insiders continue the fight.

http://www.fide.com/component/content/a ... -2018.html

Most of the newspaper reports of the Treasurer's letter stated that FIDE's bank account had been frozen. That's jumping the gun a bit as the closure now seems scheduled for April 30th.

Nigel is unimpressed.

https://twitter.com/nigelshortchess/sta ... gr%5Etweet

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Paul McKeown » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:13 pm

FIDE is imminently threatened with the loss of all its banking facilities, due to the dubious friends that FIDE's President has made and continues to make. Call me ridiculously old-fashioned and idealistic, but is this not the type of situation in which a President for Life apologises for his mistakes, resigns with good grace (and any well laundered brown envelopes) and disappears from public view, leaving behind a loyal place-man to take his former position?

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:24 pm

Paul McKeown wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:13 pm
resigns with good grace (and any well laundered brown envelopes) and disappears from public view, leaving behind a loyal place-man to take his former position?
The loyal place-man bit is in place, finding "resigns" on the other hand isn't.

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:34 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:43 am

Nigel is unimpressed.

https://twitter.com/nigelshortchess/sta ... gr%5Etweet
He was even more unimpressed by his loss on time to an 11-year-old after he (Nigel) forgot to press his clock...

https://twitter.com/nigelshortchess/sta ... 6290144258

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:16 pm

comment moved to new thread re pressing clock.
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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:24 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:16 pm
Strictly, do the Laws even permit you to do so?
I've started a new thread. I don't think the Laws prevent you from moving although with increments you still want the clock to be pressed.

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Michael Farthing » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:43 pm

I believe it is a fundamental principle that if your opponent moves before you have pressed your clock you are still entitled to do so and your opponent must then press back. It ensures that after each move there is aways an opportunity for the flag to fall.


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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:01 pm

KIrsan appears to be trying to retain his Presidency despite the absence of many of his previous supporters.

http://ruchess.ru/en/news/all/kirsan_il ... _elections_/

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:55 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:01 pm
KIrsan appears to be trying to retain his Presidency despite the absence of many of his previous supporters.
Well spotted. It is notable that none of his team has any identifiable connection with chess, except that the putative Treasurer has a FIN but has never done anything with it.

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:22 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:55 pm
It is notable that none of his team has any identifiable connection with chess
The "second division" contains some better known names.
According to Ilyumzhinov's application, Vice-President of the Chess Federation of Azerbaijan Mahir Mammedov (Azerbaijan), Vice-President of the Armenian Chess Federation Smbat Lputian (Armenia), and President of the Chinese Chess Association Yang Junan (China) have become nominated Vice-Presidents.

Former chief Treasurer of FIDE Willy Icklicki (Belgium) is announced as Executive Director, while former press secretary of the Asian Chess Federation Philip Alimo (Ghana) - as Press Officer.
Malcolm would have the ECF rally behind the defectors.
It seems to me that whatever has gone before, and many of the incumbents in FIDE bear a great responsibility for supporting Ilyumzhinov over the years, the priority now must be to get rid of him and only then can the organisation be reformed.

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Angus French » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:20 pm

Peter Doggers in a tweet: "Just had a long phone call with the third candidate for FIDE President, to be announced soon."

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:32 pm

Angus French wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:20 pm
Peter Doggers in a tweet: "Just had a long phone call with the third candidate for FIDE President, to be announced soon."
Yes, I've heard there will be an Official Monster Raving Loony Party candidate. I shan't spoil the surprise.

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Chris Rice » Tue May 01, 2018 9:21 am

UBS should have pulled the plug yesterday but no mention of whether it has or has not happened so far on the FIDE web site.

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Re: FIDE internal fighting

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue May 01, 2018 9:33 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:21 am
no mention of whether it has or has not happened so far on the FIDE web site.
Shaun Press noted that FIDE were asking not to be sent money to the UBS account.

http://chessexpress.blogspot.co.uk/2018 ... e-not.html

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