44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
- MJMcCready
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
It seems like in this Olympiad there are a few countries that we don't normally see. I don't recall seeing Laos at the Olympiad before.
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Keith Arkell
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
In such positions the margins are tight, and to win normally only require the most miniscule of errors from White. He was certainly getting something when he played 29...a4. I think ke was disappointed with his 34th move though, which led to the Rook being 'trapped' on a8 after Ra3.Roger de Coverly wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 3:12 pmIn the event, Carlsen was unable to prove the engine wrong or induce a serious error by White.Keith Arkell wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:22 pmTo elaborate: all White's pieces are tied down to preventing ...e5,and meanwhile Black can toy with various breaks ( ...a4,...b4...h4).
Nice work by our men so far - all still unbeaten and none of the teams seeded above them look that impressive.
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
I was struggling to understand James Howell's game because his opponent kept playing odd moves but good spot by James on winning his knight like he did.
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One of the results of the day was Oman beating New Zealand even though they were massively out-rated.
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
Congo also did extremely well to avoid losing to Lichtenstein, again huge rating differences in play.
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Geoff Chandler
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
Hi Roger,
' I could imagine at the age of 70 plus, really sharp openings might best be avoided
for fear of miscalculation or failing to follow up any advantage.'
Being 70+ going for quick knock out is the best way. As the game goes on you tire.
In my last league season (I was 69) my wins came before move 26. The losses were all
after move 36 and there were some awful blunders. Really bad beginners stuff. I've given up.
You and your ilk should be OK at that age, you have a positional sense to fall back on.
Us mad hackers burn out by the time we are 65. (but we enjoyed ourselves more!)
I love the Olympiad, I can think of no other sport where a low rated lover of the game
can play in the same arena as all these GM's and also have a chance to play v one of their heroes.
It's like turning up at Wimbledon with a two bob racket and in jeans asking 'Where do I play?'
'On number one court v Federer.'
I don't have any regrets, I'd do it all again. But I would love to have played in an Olympiad.
And yes...I too am enjoying the games of Baadur Jobava.
' I could imagine at the age of 70 plus, really sharp openings might best be avoided
for fear of miscalculation or failing to follow up any advantage.'
Being 70+ going for quick knock out is the best way. As the game goes on you tire.
In my last league season (I was 69) my wins came before move 26. The losses were all
after move 36 and there were some awful blunders. Really bad beginners stuff. I've given up.
You and your ilk should be OK at that age, you have a positional sense to fall back on.
Us mad hackers burn out by the time we are 65. (but we enjoyed ourselves more!)
I love the Olympiad, I can think of no other sport where a low rated lover of the game
can play in the same arena as all these GM's and also have a chance to play v one of their heroes.
It's like turning up at Wimbledon with a two bob racket and in jeans asking 'Where do I play?'
'On number one court v Federer.'
I don't have any regrets, I'd do it all again. But I would love to have played in an Olympiad.
And yes...I too am enjoying the games of Baadur Jobava.
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John Moore
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
You have the wrong Howell. David Howell is the current England player.MJMcCready wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:49 pmI was struggling to understand James Howell's game because his opponent kept playing odd moves but good spot by James on winning his knight like he did.
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
Apologies yes, there was a James Howell (very tall fellow) but that was back in the 80s. Sorry, I did mean David Howell.
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
There are a few teams near the bottom without a single FIDE rating in them.MJMcCready wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:54 pmIt seems like in this Olympiad there are a few countries that we don't normally see. I don't recall seeing Laos at the Olympiad before.
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You've got to respect Jobava today for coming out with a draw after playing the opening like that.Geoff Chandler wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:13 pmHi Roger,
' I could imagine at the age of 70 plus, really sharp openings might best be avoided
for fear of miscalculation or failing to follow up any advantage.'
Being 70+ going for quick knock out is the best way. As the game goes on you tire.
In my last league season (I was 69) my wins came before move 26. The losses were all
after move 36 and there were some awful blunders. Really bad beginners stuff. I've given up.
You and your ilk should be OK at that age, you have a positional sense to fall back on.
Us mad hackers burn out by the time we are 65. (but we enjoyed ourselves more!)
I love the Olympiad, I can think of no other sport where a low rated lover of the game
can play in the same arena as all these GM's and also have a chance to play v one of their heroes.
It's like turning up at Wimbledon with a two bob racket and in jeans asking 'Where do I play?'
'On number one court v Federer.'
I don't have any regrets, I'd do it all again. But I would love to have played in an Olympiad.
And yes...I too am enjoying the games of Baadur Jobava.
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Nick Ivell
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
Geoff
Are you accusing Roger of having a positional sense?
Only joking, I'm sure it's true!
Are you accusing Roger of having a positional sense?
Only joking, I'm sure it's true!
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Geoff Chandler
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Hi MjM,MJMcCready wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:54 pmCongo also did extremely well to avoid losing to Lichtenstein, again huge rating differences in play.
The Chess Drum gives a good reason for this;
"In Africa, there are few international tournaments, so ratings are often depressed.
There is no pool of strong players to get rating points from. At the Olympiad, you will
see players from small nations feasting on highly-fancied opponents. "
Your rating is based on the rated players you play against. If you are of GM strength but only
play people in your region where the average grade is say, 1600, then your grade will reflect this.
Some of these lads from the Congo will get a rating boost, they will go back home and the
other local players will feed of it so their ratings will be higher, but have they really got any better?
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Ian Thompson
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
It's an opportunity for England's performance coach to earn his money.
- MJMcCready
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
Most likely, then, their opponents under-rated them and were caught out. This phenomena may also partially explain why Oman turned over New Zealand.
'Some of these lads from the Congo will get a rating boost, they will go back home and the
other local players will feed of it so their ratings will be higher, but have they really got any better?'
Another question is, upon their return can they make it along the road to tell anyone anyway? Confused? Click on the link and have a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coyaVoVkhVw
'Some of these lads from the Congo will get a rating boost, they will go back home and the
other local players will feed of it so their ratings will be higher, but have they really got any better?'
Another question is, upon their return can they make it along the road to tell anyone anyway? Confused? Click on the link and have a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coyaVoVkhVw
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Re: 44th Olympiad, Chennai 28 July to 10 August 2022
Please see above and btw, that's one fascinating documentary.Geoff Chandler wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:22 pmHi MjM,MJMcCready wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:54 pmCongo also did extremely well to avoid losing to Lichtenstein, again huge rating differences in play.
The Chess Drum gives a good reason for this;
"In Africa, there are few international tournaments, so ratings are often depressed.
There is no pool of strong players to get rating points from. At the Olympiad, you will
see players from small nations feasting on highly-fancied opponents. "
Your rating is based on the rated players you play against. If you are of GM strength but only
play people in your region where the average grade is say, 1600, then your grade will reflect this.
Some of these lads from the Congo will get a rating boost, they will go back home and the
other local players will feed of it so their ratings will be higher, but have they really got any better?