I agree. It should go into a new thread called "Matthew Turner: 100 reasons to hate the ECF"Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Can this stuff not be split off into a separate thread? Or at least stop talking about it once the chess starts?Sean Hewitt ECF DoMM wrote:I shall be happy to answer that.Matthew Turner wrote:I quoted the question posed to the ECF Office in full
I quoted the ECF Office's response in full
The ECF then bothered to make a formal request to have that information taken down. Why?
The ECF received an email, purporting to be from an ECF member, asking a question about the Candidates (though not the one original posted on this forum). Strangely, the email address was not that of the member himself, but was in fact that of a well known player from another federation who posts regularly on this forum, not an ECF member. The email did not seek permission to publish the ECF's reply and, given that the identity of the person originating the email appeared to be, at the very least, uncertain, I decided that it was not appropriate to publish the contents of this private correspondence.
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Clive Blackburn
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I would be very annoyed if I had paid for tickets and travelled to London only to find that a lot of the games were quick draws!Christopher Kreuzer wrote:What I'm wondering, with an event of this length, is how many short-ish draws there might be?
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Jonathan Bryant
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Clive Blackburn wrote:I would be very annoyed if I had paid for tickets and travelled to London only to find that a lot of the games were quick draws!Christopher Kreuzer wrote:What I'm wondering, with an event of this length, is how many short-ish draws there might be?
I can understand your feeling but that's the nature of chess isn't it? You can put all the no-quick-draw rules you want, but if the players want to get round them they will. E.g. those guys who repeated thirty times before agreeing a draw a while back.
No quick draw regulations work well in an event like The Classic when players have an incentive not to try to get around them (they want to be invited back). At a qualifier like this, it's only reasonable that the players do whatever they think is necessary.
Might not be a problem. I don't remember it being an issue at San Luis 2005. Mexico City a couple of years later it was more prevalent as I recall.
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Sean Hewitt wrote,
I shall be happy to answer that.
The ECF received an email, purporting to be from an ECF member, asking a question about the Candidates (though not the one original posted on this forum). Strangely, the email address was not that of the member himself, but was in fact that of a well known player from another federation who posts regularly on this forum, not an ECF member. The email did not seek permission to publish the ECF's reply and, given that the identity of the person originating the email appeared to be, at the very least, uncertain, I decided that it was not appropriate to publish the contents of this private correspondence.
Please withdraw this comment. The E-mail was from an ECF member. The E-mail was a reply to the E-mail that had gone out from the ECF. THe E-mail came from the address register to that ECF member. The question was a genuine question. The question was quoted here in full as was the Office's reply.
The Office did a very good job of responding to a genuine member's perfectly reasonably query.
I shall be happy to answer that.
The ECF received an email, purporting to be from an ECF member, asking a question about the Candidates (though not the one original posted on this forum). Strangely, the email address was not that of the member himself, but was in fact that of a well known player from another federation who posts regularly on this forum, not an ECF member. The email did not seek permission to publish the ECF's reply and, given that the identity of the person originating the email appeared to be, at the very least, uncertain, I decided that it was not appropriate to publish the contents of this private correspondence.
Please withdraw this comment. The E-mail was from an ECF member. The E-mail was a reply to the E-mail that had gone out from the ECF. THe E-mail came from the address register to that ECF member. The question was a genuine question. The question was quoted here in full as was the Office's reply.
The Office did a very good job of responding to a genuine member's perfectly reasonably query.
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Jonathan Rogers
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Well, just use the stats from Chessbase and ignore the commentary, I would say. I was startled to see them suggest that Carlsen would be disappointed to have just under 50% against Aronian as Black, including a number of games from many years ago.Christopher Kreuzer wrote:My predictions... (I should base this on those Chessbase articles and form, but I'm going with gut feeling here): Aronian to draw with Carlsen, Radjabov to beat Gelfand, Ivanchuk to beat Grischuk, and Svidler to hold Kramnik. Though looking again at the line up, I'm reminded of how strong all the players are, and how almost all results are possible in all games (though in some you would expect the 'stronger' player to hold a draw with ease). What I'm wondering, with an event of this length, is how many short-ish draws there might be? Hopefully not many, but there could be some.Clive Blackburn wrote:Pairings for Round 1:-
1 GM Aronian Levon 2809 - GM Carlsen Magnus 2872
2 GM Gelfand Boris 2740 - GM Radjabov Teimour 2793
3 GM Ivanchuk Vassily 2757 - GM Grischuk Alexander 2764
4 GM Svidler Peter 2747 - GM Kramnik Vladimir 2810
Shortish draws? This is the Candidates; as the other Jonathan says, there is no prospect of an invitation back at the whim of the organisers; the field is much more even than at LCC or Wijk aan Zee; past such events have tended to see lots of draws. Prepare for some small measure of disappointment.
San Luis was the exception (and Mexico the norm) in my view, and that is largely because the field was uneven at San Luis (Polgar and Kasim stood out as "come out and get me!") and you had a certain Mr Topalov (not to mention Morozevich) playing.
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What would the odds be on 4 Black wins? I think it is a possibility, but for my predictions I'll go for a draw on 1 and 3 and Black wins on 2 and 4.
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Ivanchuk can start well before crashing. He has White in one of the more winnable games today and is at least the most likely White winner, in my view.
Aronian v Carlsen will be a real game at any rate - Aronian cannot afford to give him a soft draw with White.
Aronian v Carlsen will be a real game at any rate - Aronian cannot afford to give him a soft draw with White.
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Moved from Lisbon to SwitzerlandKevin Thurlow wrote:"<Gran Prix in Lisbon also cancelled. AGON(Y) is about to finish. (https://twitter.com/SilvioDanailov/...)>"
Danailov goes up in my estimation for the "AGON(Y)" comment.
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Agon were supposedly making changes to the traditional Staunton designs. There are some chess sets on display in the background of some of the shots of the reception. They don't look much different apart from the Knights seeming a bit fatter. In any event for transmission of live games, they would have to use the DGT pieces or engineer the DGT adaptations into their new design.
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Mick Norris wrote:Moved from Lisbon to SwitzerlandKevin Thurlow wrote:"<Gran Prix in Lisbon also cancelled. AGON(Y) is about to finish. (https://twitter.com/SilvioDanailov/...)>"
Danailov goes up in my estimation for the "AGON(Y)" comment.![]()
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Question mark definitely appropriate there but hopefully not quite all the wheels have come off this wagon just yet.
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The main site at http://london2013.fide.com/ appears to have more options including 'chesscasting' now
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Kevin Thurlow
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"Question mark definitely appropriate there but hopefully not quite all the wheels have come off this wagon just yet."
"wAGON" surely?
I hope we get a few Sicilian DrAGONs...
yeah, ok, I'll stop there.
Off to lunch, cheese sandwiches and a flAGON of wine.
"wAGON" surely?
I hope we get a few Sicilian DrAGONs...
yeah, ok, I'll stop there.
Off to lunch, cheese sandwiches and a flAGON of wine.
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John McKenna
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Venue is open and tickets go on sale from 12:30. Cafe (tea/coffee £1.50, cappucino £2.50)
There will be a commentary room - possibly in the 'Faraday room'.
There will be a commentary room - possibly in the 'Faraday room'.
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Good to see they also use my pgn4web tool for some of the live pages, "non flash viewer" and "mobile devices" options.Carl Hibbard wrote:The main site at http://london2013.fide.com/ appears to have more options including 'chesscasting' now
If only they spelled properly the PGN filename, at the moment you dont see the game placeholder because instead of the proper PGN filename "http://livegames.fide.com/london2013/live/games.pgn" the "non flash viewer" currently points to "http://livegames.fide.com/london2013/games.pgn" and the "mobile devices" adds a space at the end of the PGN filename.
Just mentioning those errors here in case someone notices and fixes those spellings before the start of the games...
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I notice incidentally that the organisers still envisage the winner playing Anand this year - who really believes this?