2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Everybody seems to be expecting a draw tomorrow and then tiebreaks, but what a finish it would be if that turned out not to be the case.
As recently as <checks notes> game 10, some were complaining that this match was boring. Just goes to show.
As recently as <checks notes> game 10, some were complaining that this match was boring. Just goes to show.
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Ian Thompson
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Is either player likely to think that they'll probably lose in a tie-break so it's worth taking risks to win tomorrow? It could be interesting tomorrow if they both think that.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:59 pmEverybody seems to be expecting a draw tomorrow and then tiebreaks, but what a finish it would be if that turned out not to be the case.
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Mick Norris
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Pre match, Ding (2776 rapid, 2785 blitz) would be favourite in the tie-break against Gukesh (2654 rapid, 2615 blitz), and he appears to play better when he speeds up
However, he is white tomorrow, so maybe he has something left to try
Gukesh just seems very level headed and taking each game as it comes
No clue what will happen
However, he is white tomorrow, so maybe he has something left to try
Gukesh just seems very level headed and taking each game as it comes
No clue what will happen
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Sounds a bit like sour grapes? I think both players have done amazing, Ding showing great character and I still think people forget that Gukesh is only 18. Caruana is a great player and probably would have been WC if not for Carlsen, but he did not qualify from the candidates.Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:06 pmFabi got up at 6 am to pour scorn on Gukesh's prep. He said he had considered 7. a3 for rapid games but decided it was not good enough even for rapid. Asked if he believed Ding had really only done three weeks prep, he said he saw no evidence of that much!
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Yes, winning the Candidates more than once is tough, but Caruana might do it next time.
Smyslov and Spassky managed to become champion second time around.
I think Nepo is the only player to win the Candidates twice and not become World Champion.
Ding is the only player to become World Champion via second place in the Candidates.
Smyslov and Spassky managed to become champion second time around.
I think Nepo is the only player to win the Candidates twice and not become World Champion.
Ding is the only player to become World Champion via second place in the Candidates.
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Jonathan Rogers
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Korchnoi.Tim Harding wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:30 pm....
I think Nepo is the only player to win the Candidates twice and not become World Champion.
Another player played twice a match for the world title, depending on one's chess religion, and won neither - Topalov.
Gukesh could of course win another candidates', if required to do so. So easy to forget that he is only 18. He looked (looked) remarkably composed in the press conference after today's near miss and it still seems a difficult match to call.
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
There are others back in the day who played two matches for the title without winning either (Chigorin, Bogoljubow).
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
I bet he will be taking another look at 7.a3 now. Team Gukesh must have found something, even if it didn't appear on the board today.Paul Cooksey wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:06 pmFabi got up at 6 am to pour scorn on Gukesh's prep. He said he had considered 7. a3 for rapid games but decided it was not good enough even for rapid.
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LawrenceCooper
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Game 14 following Sarakauskas-Willow from the 4NCL 2022-23!
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Jonathan Rogers wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:27 pm"And from that day onwards, Black never again advanced ... d5-d4 in a world championship game".
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
I see Jonah played 10 .. e5 rather than Gukesh's Bc5LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:26 amGame 14 following Sarakauskas-Willow from the 4NCL 2022-23!
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LawrenceCooper
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Yes, he got into trouble soon after that.Mick Norris wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:54 amI see Jonah played 10 .. e5 rather than Gukesh's Bc5LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:26 amGame 14 following Sarakauskas-Willow from the 4NCL 2022-23!
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Ding has chosen to defend an ending a pawn down. It should be a draw but still a bit surprising.
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Roger de Coverly
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Position after White's move 41
The lichess engine thinks it can be held, but presumably Gukesh will want to see why.
The lichess engine thinks it can be held, but presumably Gukesh will want to see why.
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Re: 2024 World Championship (25 November to 13 December)
Gukesh with exactly 1.0 advantage on move 51.
Ding running low on time (12 mins). Exciting (if potentially tragic for those wanting to see tie-breaks).
(Having actually looked at the position, it is just drawn is it not?)
Ding running low on time (12 mins). Exciting (if potentially tragic for those wanting to see tie-breaks).
(Having actually looked at the position, it is just drawn is it not?)