European Club Cup 2025

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European Club Cup 2025

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Oct 19, 2025 9:18 am

Starting today with six English teams in the open and three in the women's event. First round ties include Cheddleton v White Rose!

https://s3.chess-results.com/tnr1250658 ... 0&SNode=S0
https://s3.chess-results.com/tnr1250660 ... 0&SNode=S0

Pairings include Bodhana facing Mariya Muzychuk!

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Ian Thompson » Sun Oct 19, 2025 10:31 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 9:18 am
Starting today with six English teams in the open and three in the women's event.
Streatham and Brixton don't look very English to me!


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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:06 pm

Bodhana's position certainly looks very good to this human's eyes (and "encouraging" to the engine).

Others will know better than me, but is the women's team playing on board one, with Paehtz on board four, simply the strongest by miles?

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:21 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:06 pm
Others will know better than me, but is the women's team playing on board one, with Paehtz on board four, simply the strongest by miles?
Their board one is resting today so it's actually their 2-5 in action today. The team with two Muzychuks will hopefully be competitive but the Monte Carlo team have been rating favorites for as long as I can remember despite having not won it since 2018.

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:52 pm

very smooth win! Not her first win against a GM, but the manner of it seems significant. (And Leonard's next column is probably mostly written already...)

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Oct 19, 2025 4:57 pm

Great result, that must be her best so far?
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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:56 pm

First one:
10-year-old Bodhana Sivanandan makes a huge upset and wins against former Women's World Chess Champion GM Mariya Muzychuk! 🤩

Her team She Plays to Win Lionesses🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 is the 12th-seeded in the tournament, and now has 1-0 edge over the 2nd-seeded Turkish Airlines sports club🇹🇷!
Second one:
10-year-old England's rising chess star Bodhana Sivanandan finds a stunning 20.Nd5!! and she has a winning position against former Women's World Chess Champion GM Mariya Muzychuk! 🤯

This might be the first major upset of the European Women's Chess Club Cup 2025!


Computer says the Nd5 tactic was possible for the three previous moves before Bodhana played it. Interesting.

Are not the real records the youngest person to beat a former World Chess Champion?

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:47 pm

Apart from the result itself the aggression she showed in the game was great to see. She does, sometimes, have a tendency to be a bit timid so seeing her attack like this was a joy to watch.

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Oct 19, 2025 9:25 pm

I also like the body language from Muzychuk in the Twitter photos that show the position where Bodhana is thinking about (and about to play) 28.Rc6. You can tell Muzychuk knows she is busted!

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Sun Oct 19, 2025 9:33 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Sun Oct 19, 2025 6:56 pm
Are not the real records the youngest person to beat a former World Chess Champion?
Got this from an AI overview...
The youngest player to beat a former World Champion is Gukesh Dommaraju, who defeated Anatoly Karpov at the age of 12 years, 10 months, and 18 days in 2018.
So is Bodhana the new record holder for this record?

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sun Oct 19, 2025 10:32 pm

It is possible that answer is only covering male world champions.
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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Oct 20, 2025 4:06 am

Possibly the record was 12 year old Maia Chiburdanidze beating Nona Gaprindashvili?

https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1285155

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Re: European Club Cup 2025

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon Oct 20, 2025 9:17 am

Wow. Good find there Nick. Interesting that Maia played in the USSR Women's Championship at the age of 12. But not sure about the age. She may have been 13.

Do we have a date for that game? It says 1973-74 (she was born 17 January 1961). Also, her Wikipedia article (which may well be wrong) says:
Chiburdanidze won outright on her debut, at the Braşov women's international tournament of 1974, when she was only 13 years old

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