Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

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Keith Arkell
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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Keith Arkell » Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:51 pm

Maybe. I think she didn't want to damage her structure and give me the option of a quick minority attack with b4-b5, or perhaps play Qc2 and Bd3. You might be right though. I wondered during the game whether...exd5 might be better.

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Barry Sandercock » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:19 pm

Can Nigel Short win his game (move 63) ? Unless he can get the Queens off, I don't think he can.

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Keith Arkell » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:27 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:seeing so far in advance (in keith's given line) that Black could retreat with ...Kd7 first and then Kd5 Ke7, so that e6 would not come with check, is impressive.
Going back to the round 4 game again ( thanks Jonathan, by the way!) there was another line I had to check before rejecting the K+P ending, but it involved something that every Russian schoolboy knows, viz: ( W: Kd4, Rg5, ps a3, e3, h4; B: Kd6, Ra5, ps a5,g6,h5) 46 Ke4 Ke6 47 Kf4 Kf6 48 e4 Kg7 ( 48...g5+?? 49 hg+ Kg6 50 e5 h4 51 e6 winning for White) 49 Kg5 Kf7 50 a4 Kg7 51 e5 Kf7 52 Kh6 Ke6 53 Kxg6 Kxe5 54 Kxh5 Kf5 55 Kh6 Kf6 56 h5 Kf7 57 Kg5 Kg7 58 Kf5 Kh6 59 Ke5 Kxh5 60 Kd5 Kg5 61 Kc5 Kf6 62 Kb5 Ke6 63 Kxa5 Kd7 64 Kb6 Kc8 drawing. Note that if the pawns were on a5 vs a6 then White is winning.

Coincidence fanatics might enjoy the fact that in the following round, my opponent's husband, GM Naiditch, who joined us in the post-mortem, had a similar K+P ending against Granda-Zuniga. Again there was no way to win. And meanwhile, again in the following round, I had a similar R+P ending against another of the strong contingent of female players here, and again it was a draw!

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Keith Arkell » Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:31 pm

Barry Sandercock wrote:Can Nigel Short win his game (move 63) ? Unless he can get the Queens off, I don't think he can.
I think the answer is yes! Nigel should be able to grind this one down :)

I think he will just need to be careful not to allow any totally drawing series of checks.

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Barry Sandercock » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:24 pm

Not so easy to avoid the checks though.( Move 83)

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Barry Sandercock » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:39 pm

Oh yes, you were right Keith, Nigel wins now ( move 99)

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by John Moore » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:44 pm

Old boy might need a rest tomorrow - although when you are on a roll.

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:47 pm

John Moore wrote:Old boy might need a rest tomorrow - although when you are on a roll.
Well done Nigel. Over seven hours play is tough, even at 50 years young.

It's not clear whether Black resigned or lost on time at move 106.

Who's staying up late for the start of Millionaire Chess?
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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by John Moore » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:50 pm

Won't be me, Tim - got to stay awake tomorrow for the IOM - notice that Gawain is creeping up there. Impressed with Nigel's win though. Movsesian is a serious player.

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:26 pm

John Moore wrote:Won't be me, Tim - got to stay awake tomorrow for the IOM - notice that Gawain is creeping up there. Impressed with Nigel's win though. Movsesian is a serious player.
Just kept an eye on a few games while watching Ireland beat Germany at soccer (!!).
It will get interesting in a couple of days; today was GMs v 2300 players.
There were a couple of forfeits on high boards - either players didn't arrive as expected or missed the default time.
Yu Yangyi got a walkover and Wang Hao forfeited.

Most amusing was Wesley So as Black. His opponent Albert Hernandez (USA 2327) turned up 12 minutes late and then they blitzed out a Gruenfeld but after 4 Nf3 Bg7 5 Bg5 Ne4 White immediately played 6 Qc1?!, evidently a pet line. Wesley thought 17 minutes and replied 6...c5 whereupon White played 7 Nxd5?! in under a minute, still in prep presumably.

Wesley had another long think and played 7...Nc6! which must have surprised White as he didn't have an instant reply. Evidently he didn't prepare deeply enough. After 7 Qf4? (4 minutes) 7...Qa5+ 8 b4? Nxb4 Black was already winning.

There's a lesson here about how NOT to play when you get a once in a lifetime game against a world top player. We saw the same with that player who was lost in 8 moves against Mickey Adams a couple of days ago in a Scandinavian, or the guy against Topalov last year in the London Classic. He evidently supposed Topalov had blundered in the opening (how likely was that?), grabbed material and it was over in half an hour...
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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:31 pm

Well with that last one you probably owe yourself at least finding out what you're missing :)

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:06 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:Well with that last one you probably owe yourself at least finding out what you're missing :)
Actually my recollection was slightly out; it was January this year in Gibraltar. Here's the game and Black's 11th was the naive move:

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:18 am

Tim Harding wrote: Wesley had another long think and played 7...Nc6! which must have surprised White as he didn't have an instant reply. Evidently he didn't prepare deeply enough. After 7 Qf4? (4 minutes) 7...Qa5+ 8 b4? Nxb4 Black was already winning.
7 . .. Nc6 appears to be an idea not previously played in practice. Whether this was preparation or just a move "obvious" to a top 20 GM remains to be resolved.

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:22 am

Tim Harding wrote: ....

There's a lesson here about how NOT to play when you get a once in a lifetime game against a world top player. We saw the same with that player who was lost in 8 moves against Mickey Adams a couple of days ago in a Scandinavian, or the guy against Topalov last year in the London Classic. He evidently supposed Topalov had blundered in the opening (how likely was that?), grabbed material and it was over in half an hour...
"That player" isn't exactly a stranger. Let's be familiar with his name: yesterday Alan Merry recovered to beat his second GM of the event ...

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Re: Pokerstars IoM 3-11 Oct 2015

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:26 am

Yes, and good luck to Alan today with black against GM Grandelius

I assume Alan is currently heading for another norm performance
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