2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:26 pm

JustinHorton wrote:Once again I say:
JustinHorton wrote:For a game that's supposed to be about deep opening preparation, it isn't half looking like it's all about taking your chances.
Absolutely. Anand is tied for first because he has taken practically every chance. Caruana is "only" tied for first because he has only converted two out of about five opportunities (though the save against Giri was a half point extra the other way).

As it now stands, Caruana has the advantage that he is tied with Anand and has beaten him in their head to head encounters. Even if a third party joins them on +2, Caruana might still win on the first tiebreak, so Anand under more pressure to go +3, but he only has one White left, and that is against Giri of all people.

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by John McKenna » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:34 pm

Caruana the only undefeated player...
I guess it's almost time to write off Giri - he's drawn himself, undefeated, to the point of defeat as far as winning the Candidates goes.

Still, what passed between him and a truthful commentator could spur him on to win his remaining three games!
Or could it?
James Byrne wrote:Did anyone catch the beginning of the Giri-Nakamura press conference :lol:?

Evgenij Miroshnichenko: So, we are back with another press conference. Err, Anish Giri and Hikaru Nakamura finished their game in a draw. 3 second pause Quite a usual result for Anish it seems (said whilst smiling), so, got something to say? Well today it looked very close right?

Anish Giri: I’m going to restrain myself because err… It’s going to be saved forever on the internet, so I’m not going to say anything bad to you right now, but erm… yeah… I’ve err… I think I played a good game.
Evgenij Miroshnichenko no longer smiling.

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Tim Harding » Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:55 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:...Caruana the only undefeated player.
Correction: Giri is also undefeated.

The only players who have not won any game are Giri and Topalov.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by MartinCarpenter » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:55 pm

I've got a lot of sympathy for Giri. He's played quite a few really quite good interesting/games this tournament.

I've had spells a bit like it. You're playing interesting chess/positions but no matter what you do, good or bad!, the games just seem to end up drawn.

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:40 pm

Giri is black against Svidler, a must win game for both if they are to have any chance surely, then Anand, who will presumably need to push to beat him, before a white game v Topalov - he might be playing well enough to win all 3, big ask though, but he should certainly win 1

Topalov's remaining white v J'adoubeamura must be his best chance of a win
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:43 pm

TWIC report
Anand has seen these tense final round situations many times, perhaps he is the best equipped to deal with it
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:45 pm

MartinCarpenter wrote:I've got a lot of sympathy for Giri. He's played quite a few really quite good interesting/games this tournament
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Has he ever really been in trouble?
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:19 am

I notice that Svidler is now at 25/1 - still a long shot, but amyone tempted at those odds might think it's a shame they didn't back him yesterday at 100.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:33 am

Talking of long shots, I think it is still possible for all eight players to win, though I wouldn't swear to it: Topalov can still get to 7 and I can't yet see that the pairings make it inevitable that somebody must get to 7.5, or that a tie-break would inevitably work against Topalov. (Come to that though I've not yet come up with a sequence whereby Topalov wins. Anybody else fancy a go?)

EDIT: I can't find any sequence of results that both gets Topalov to 7 and prevents at least one other player reaching 7.5. I should have something better to do.
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:33 am

JustinHorton wrote:
MartinCarpenter wrote:I've got a lot of sympathy for Giri. He's played quite a few really quite good interesting/games this tournament
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Has he ever really been in trouble?
He was under pressure in round 2 as black against Caruana, not sure if you would describe it as trouble
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:11 pm

Top plays the first Sicilian of the event. On other boards, has my screen frozen or has Aronian really been pondering pondering his reply to Caruana’s Spanish for 8 minutes?

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:14 pm

Chess24 has them on move 14.

Whoever would have expected an English Opening theme tournament?
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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:33 pm

Anand bravely walking into Naka's prep.........

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:42 pm

JustinHorton wrote:Chess24 has them on move 14.

Whoever would have expected an English Opening theme tournament?

c24 had bounced forward as soon as I got back there from posting here. I was thinking about the high 1 c4 rate too. What other elite level events have been dominated by the English? Or at least had a highly significant number of them. Kasparov - Karpov IV in Seville. Any others?

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Re: 2016 Candidates Moscow 10-29 March

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:50 pm

Korchnoi favoured 1. c4 quite a lot but looking up his matches, I see a lot of transposition into 1. d4 openings. There's a couple of pure Englishes in both his 1971 and 1977 matches with Petrosian.
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