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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Egypt tomorrow but that no longer looks like the pushover it seemed yesterday.

Still, a big win is possible and if the other results went the way we'd like England could even lead after round 7.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:03 pm

I guess we are thinking that it goes without saying, but that was an excellent result (and performance) in the circumstances. Not only did at one point none of the top three boards look all that promising (and we were after all Black in two of them, with non-repertoire Luke having the White) but we were losing on board four from a very early stage, with no real hope of recovery.

A draw would have been quite a good result in those circumstances. But 3-1 !!

Here's hoping Gawain can play again, and then who knows what? (It might partly depend upon which China turns up, you might think).

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:18 pm

It might be relevant that it's the penultimate round, and China are likely to need to win if they're going to have any chance of getting anything. Or it might not, because they'd want to win that match on rating strength anyway.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:20 pm

Might be tempting fate, but in round 7 if USA beat Russia, and Azerbaijan (who are not doing well, but showed in their win over USA what they can do on their day) beat or draw with India, then a win from England would put them top with matches against under-performing China and tail-enders Sweden to come. Even a loss to China would still likely see England finish third if we win the other two matches. India have a tough run-in, against USA and Russia - you would expect some points dropped there.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:58 pm

It had previously eluded me that Naiditsch has a crushing record against Karjakin, now up to 6-2.

Sweden also seem to have been without their normal board four today, only they put in another guy with the same name.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Reg Clucas » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:02 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:07 pm
Jack - thanks very much. I wonder if that's the one I was thinking of?
But shouldn't that be a draw? 128...Rh6+ 129.Nb6+ and now Black informs the arbiter that he intends to play 129...Kb8 which makes 50 moves by each side since the last capture.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:13 pm

Reg Clucas wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:02 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:07 pm
Jack - thanks very much. I wonder if that's the one I was thinking of?
But shouldn't that be a draw? 128...Rh6+ 129.Nb6+ and now Black informs the arbiter that he intends to play 129...Kb8 which makes 50 moves by each side since the last capture.
It should have been, and the arbiters commented on that as they delivered the scoresheets to me.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:25 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:03 pm
I guess we are thinking that it goes without saying, but that was an excellent result (and performance) in the circumstances. Not only did at one point none of the top three boards look all that promising (and we were after all Black in two of them, with non-repertoire Luke having the White) but we were losing on board four from a very early stage, with no real hope of recovery.

A draw would have been quite a good result in those circumstances. But 3-1 !!

Here's hoping Gawain can play again, and then who knows what? (It might partly depend upon which China turns up, you might think).
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Nick Grey » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:59 pm

England ought to win a medal. Egypt are the weakest with 1/6 but that is better than their 0 before China.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:02 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:27 pm
Wow, yes 44 Qd2 e5 :shock:
I find it hard to believe that both players simply missed that. I suppose it could have been a successful bluff.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Andy Stoker » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:39 am

Jones back against Egypt.
Big ratings advantage on boards 3 and 4 - similar on boards 1 and 2. C'mon lads!

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:26 am

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:13 pm
Reg Clucas wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:02 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:07 pm
Jack - thanks very much. I wonder if that's the one I was thinking of?
But shouldn't that be a draw? 128...Rh6+ 129.Nb6+ and now Black informs the arbiter that he intends to play 129...Kb8 which makes 50 moves by each side since the last capture.
It should have been, and the arbiters commented on that as they delivered the scoresheets to me.
Off topic,but this happened in another game not so long ago.

Black resigned, but could have played ...Rf8, when Rxf8 would have been mate - except that the draw could have been claimed with ...Rf8 as it would have been the 50th move.

Can anyone provide chapter and verse?

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Angus French » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:04 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:26 am
IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:13 pm
Reg Clucas wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:02 pm

But shouldn't that be a draw? 128...Rh6+ 129.Nb6+ and now Black informs the arbiter that he intends to play 129...Kb8 which makes 50 moves by each side since the last capture.
It should have been, and the arbiters commented on that as they delivered the scoresheets to me.
Off topic,but this happened in another game not so long ago.

Black resigned, but could have played ...Rf8, when Rxf8 would have been mate - except that the draw could have been claimed with ...Rf8 as it would have been the 50th move.

Can anyone provide chapter and verse?
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:48 am

Andy Stoker wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:39 am
Big ratings advantage on boards 3 and 4 - similar on boards 1 and 2. C'mon lads!
Stockfish at chessbomb already claiming a winning advantage for Howell on board 3.


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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Thomas Rendle » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:50 am

Humans also claiming the same - I mean look at the Black position! Then try to find moves that don't drop material...

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