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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:41 pm

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Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:23 pm
Tony Miles lost four at Lucerne 1982, three of which came in the last three rounds.
And he "only" scored 50% when (in)famously placed on top board in 1986, not sure how many losses though.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:05 pm

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Tony Miles lost four at Lucerne 1982, three of which came in the last three rounds.
He did, and that seems to be the answer to the question as asked. There are at least five other examples of the top board at the Olympiad losing four games or more, if we include the GB teams from pre-war tournaments. I could find no such examples from World Team or European Championships.

"Four or more", you ask? At Munich in 1958 CH O'D Alexander lost six.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:20 pm

Oh, before I got sidetracked I meant to mention that the last game to finish seems to have finished even later than it might have.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:37 pm

Board pairings, for round 9 which starts very early tomorrow, are now up at chess24.

To clarify, Russia have won the Open (and China the women's tournament) with a round to spare with 14MP.
India and England are on 11 MP and China on 10 MP (but China have 1 game point more). USA have 9MP and the same game points as us.

India have a 3 game point advantage over England but if we beat Sweden we will be second unless India beat Russia.

If we only draw and India lose then we will only be second if China fail to beat Kazakhstan. If we draw and China win, they are second and India would finish fourth.

So If India draw or win their match, then we need to better China's result. If we lose we could even be overtaken by USA and finish fifth.

I am optimistic, though, and believe we can beat Sweden and that India won't win their match.

Our match:
Adams v Grandelius; Blomqvist v McShane; Howell v Smith; Johansson v Jones.

In the other matches, Azerbaijan play Egypt and USA play Iran.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:34 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:23 pm
Tony Miles lost four at Lucerne 1982, three of which came in the last three rounds.
Purely for reasons of accuracy, that was out of twelve games played.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by David Robertson » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:05 pm

A word in praise of Luke McShane

He currently stands +3, and a draw in rd 9 will give him the Board 2 prize (if there is one). Given our second slot has been an under-performing problem for some time, Luke deserves plenty of credit for solving it.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:03 am

And he has a French Exchange this morning, I think - only with Black a tempo down.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:28 am

Barminess in Azerbaijan v Egypt, with three games drawn in 11, 12 and 14 moves respectively - and Guseinov v Fawzy, where Black was already lost by then.
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Post by Mick Norris » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:58 am

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Barminess in Azerbaijan v Egypt, with three games drawn in 11, 12 and 14 moves respectively - and Guseinov v Fawzy, where Black was already lost by then.
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:01 am

Yes, but don't you normally prearrange all four? Has something gone awry?
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Thomas Rendle » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:10 am

Cautiously optimistic as England are pressing on 1, 3 and 4 with Luke slightly worse on 2.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by PeterFarr » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:29 am

Thomas Rendle wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:10 am
Cautiously optimistic as England are pressing on 1, 3 and 4 with Luke slightly worse on 2.
India doing quite well against Russia though at the moment, with Nepo a piece down for not much it seems.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:54 am

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And he has a French Exchange this morning, I think - only with Black a tempo down.
Berlin with 5 Re1 - the reason that some don't play the Berlin.

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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by JustinHorton » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:56 am

By transposition, which is how the tempo went west
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Re: World Teams 2019

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:03 am

Oh, I see. Doesn't seem too serious. I am happy that we will win but my goodness we need to shout for Grischuk!

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