FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Matthew Turner » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:45 am

It feels a bit unfortunate that the lowest rated player gets a full point bye in round 2.

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Ian Thompson » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:54 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:49 am
He shouldn't have done. Players are supposed to leave the playing area as soon as they have finished, as at Olympiads.

Incidentally, there are two playing halls, with Boards 1-34 in one and Boards 35 -77 in the other.
I hope it's not like one tournament I played in a long time ago where there were two playing rooms and players on lower boards weren't allowed in the other room where the higher boards were.

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:22 am

Matthew Turner wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:45 am
It feels a bit unfortunate that the lowest rated player gets a full point bye in round 2.
That's how the FIDE pairing rules are written. When someone is consistently the lowest rated in successive tournaments, or is at the end of the alphabet if unrated, they see more than a fair share of byes.

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:49 am

Carlsen was lucky to win. Wonder if he will be able to beat Ding's unbeaten streak - I think it unlikely. This is a strong tournament (but then Carlsen is a strong player!).

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Tim Harding » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:50 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:22 am
Matthew Turner wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:45 am
It feels a bit unfortunate that the lowest rated player gets a full point bye in round 2.
That's how the FIDE pairing rules are written. When someone is consistently the lowest rated in successive tournaments, or is at the end of the alphabet if unrated, they see more than a fair share of byes.
The rules and implementation are correct. Moreover, you would hardly want to give a bye as early in round 2 to somebody who might go on a winning streak and (however improbably) qualify for the Candidates?
Is this guy (Baard Dahl) an Isle of Man player or a sponsor? Otherwise it's hard to understand what a 2067-rated player is doing in this event.

Also, do we know why GM Nabaty is not playing round 2? Has he fallen ill?
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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:57 am

Tim Harding wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:50 am

Is this guy (Baard Dahl) an Isle of Man player or a sponsor?
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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by David Sedgwick » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:01 pm

Ian Thompson wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:54 am
I hope it's not like one tournament I played in a long time ago where there were two playing rooms and players on lower boards weren't allowed in the other room where the higher boards were.
My understanding (which may be incorrect) is that players in play are allowed in both rooms, but players who have finished their games are not allowed in either.

Tim Harding wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:50 am
Is this guy (Baard Dahl) an Isle of Man player or a sponsor?
The former, and at one time also the latter, since he works or used to work for PokerStars.

Tim Harding wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:50 am
Also, do we know why GM Nabaty is not playing round 2? Has he fallen ill?
That is a question to which I don't know the answer.

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:02 pm

"Players are supposed to leave the playing area as soon as they have finished, as at Olympiads."

In that case, I hope Keith wasn't dragged kicking and screaming from the hall as he couldn't watch his favourite ending..

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:12 pm

Imagine losing in round 1 then getting black vs Anand as a reward. I'd love it, but not everybody would.

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Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:20 pm

On a smaller scale, I lost in round one (to a regular in this forum) in 1992 in Wolverhampton and got black vs Tony Miles (then world 47=) as a reward.
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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Simon Brown » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:53 pm

Anyone know why they only appear to be showing half the games?

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Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:13 pm

They seem to have them all now. Was it anything to do with there being two playing halls?
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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:37 pm

After little more than half an hour, the top board game has reached move 28
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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Angus French » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:48 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:37 pm
After little more than half an hour, the top board game has reached move 28
Now at move 29 and I think Sarana has a draw if he wants it.

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Re: FIDE Grand Swiss Tournament 2019 - Isle of Man

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:51 pm

Angus French wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:48 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:37 pm
After little more than half an hour, the top board game has reached move 28
Now at move 29 and I think Sarana has a draw if he wants it.
Looks winning for Sarana (who has White), maybe?

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