That's why I deleted the posts seconds after submitting it, clearly not quickly enough to prevent you from jumping inTim Harding wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:04 pmThat doesn't actually contradict what I wrote because if Anton and Hikaru win in round 10 they will meet in round 11.LawrenceCooper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:59 pmTwo wins for Anton might be a problem for him (however unlikely that is).Tim Harding wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:56 pm
A win for Naka tomorrow and a draw on Monday should clinch it even if Caruana wins the tournament.
Or am I missing something?
It's true that if Anton then beat him he would become the qualifier.
Presumably there are some circumstances where 1.5 (or perhaps even 1 point) out of 2 might be sufficient for Nakamura, Anton or Aronian, but I am not attempting to calculate them.
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I wonder if Howell v Grischuk might be the game to watch today (give or take Nakamura v Aronian). It's probably not realistic to expect that everybody on 6 will take risks to try and get themselves in with a chance on Monday, but Grischuk may well be one of them, no?
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Grischuk and Howell will presumably both be in time trouble so they should have a good idea of how the other games are going
8 points might qualify if Caruana wins the tournament
8 points might qualify if Caruana wins the tournament
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It certainly looks like the board with most chance of a result, I don't think it will be just Grischuk prepared to take risks in the game though. Elsewhere rating advantage suggests that white will be pressing on 1,3 5, 7 and 8 but board 4 looks most likely to end peacefully. Board 2 may depend on how ambitious Naka is.JustinHorton wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:05 amI wonder if Howell v Grischuk might be the game to watch today (give or take Nakamura v Aronian). It's probably not realistic to expect that everybody on 6 will take risks to try and get themselves in with a chance on Monday, but Grischuk may well be one of them, no?
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Can anyone point to a reminder of the tiebreak calculations (it was somewhere in this thread) and if there is anywhere calcuating this (e.g. is the Chess Results tiebreaks (TB1, TB2, TB3, TB4) the correct calculation or not)? I am never sure if the Chess Results tiebreaks are official ones or ones that are generated automatically.
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5. 8. 2. Tie-breaks
If the top two (2) or more players score the same points, the tie is to be decided by the following criteria, in order of priority:
a) Average Rating of Opponents Cut 1 (AROC 1)*
b) Buchholz Cut 1;
c) Buchholz;
d) Direct encounter between the players in tie;
e) Drawing of lots.
* All forfeits and byes will be cut from the calculation of AROC 1. If a player has one or more forfeits or byes, then no additional
results will be cut from the calculation of AROC 1.
All tie-breaks will be calculated as described in C.02.13 of the FIDE Handbook
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Pretty sure TB1 is what we wantChristopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:51 amCan anyone point to a reminder of the tiebreak calculations (it was somewhere in this thread) and if there is anywhere calcuating this (e.g. is the Chess Results tiebreaks (TB1, TB2, TB3, TB4) the correct calculation or not)? I am never sure if the Chess Results tiebreaks are official ones or ones that are generated automatically.
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Worth noting (taken from the Chessbase report on round 9) that:
"Vincent Keymer, Jonas Buhl Bjerre and Raunak Sadhwani completed their third and final grandmaster norms"
Impressive achiving that here - all three played GMs in all 9 rounds (and again in round 10). Keymer did it with 4/9 - how is that possible - I thought there was a need to be over 50% or did I just make that up? Bjerre on 4.5/9 and Sadhwani on 5/9. They are all young as well, aged 14-16 I think. Wonder how many other norms may be possible?
I think Carlsen playing Matlakov in round 10 is where he can tie Ding's record, and a possible encounter with Nakamura in round 11 might be tasty!
"Vincent Keymer, Jonas Buhl Bjerre and Raunak Sadhwani completed their third and final grandmaster norms"
Impressive achiving that here - all three played GMs in all 9 rounds (and again in round 10). Keymer did it with 4/9 - how is that possible - I thought there was a need to be over 50% or did I just make that up? Bjerre on 4.5/9 and Sadhwani on 5/9. They are all young as well, aged 14-16 I think. Wonder how many other norms may be possible?
I think Carlsen playing Matlakov in round 10 is where he can tie Ding's record, and a possible encounter with Nakamura in round 11 might be tasty!
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There is a minimum requirement, but it is 35%.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pmI thought there was a need to be over 50% or did I just make that up?
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Thanks. Maybe I was remembering 50% from somewhere else in the Handbook and Regulations.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:29 pmThere is a minimum requirement, but it is 35%.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pmI thought there was a need to be over 50% or did I just make that up?
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Thank God for that! I'd never manage 40%
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Well, given the champ's past record in their encounters that all points to one thing. Yes, a "shock" win for NakaChristopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pmI think Carlsen playing Matlakov in round 10 is where he can tie Ding's record, and a possible encounter with Nakamura in round 11 might be tasty!
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Cannot happen, I think. Unless Hikaru loses today (and a draw looks probable at move 25), he is nailed on to play either Caruana or Anton depending on their result.Matt Mackenzie wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:46 pmWell, given the champ's past record in their encounters that all points to one thing. Yes, a "shock" win for NakaChristopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:26 pmI think Carlsen playing Matlakov in round 10 is where he can tie Ding's record, and a possible encounter with Nakamura in round 11 might be tasty!
Carlsen's last round opponent is most likely to be Aronian, Anton or one of the players on 6 whom he hasn't yet met.
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Looks like Matlakov will lose.
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