3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

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3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:19 pm

The line up for this tournament appears to be:

1 Alexander Grischuk (Russia)
2 Ian Nepomniachtchi (Russia)
3 Maxime Vachier-Lagrave (France)
4 Radoslaw Wojtaszek (Poland)
5 Hikaru Nakamura (USA)
6 Peter Svidler (Russia)
7 Daniil Dubov (Russia)
8 Wei Yi (China)
9 Veselin Topalov (Bulgaria)
10 Yu Yangyi (China)
11 Jan-Krzysztof Duda (Poland)
12 Teimour Radjabov (Azerbaijan)
13 Nikita Vitiugov (Russia)
14 Harikrishna Pentala (India)
15 David Navara (Czech Republic)
16 Dmitry Jakovenko (Russia)

I can't seem to find any info on who is playing who or when exactly the first round is but it looks like a cracking line up!

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:19 am

Opening ceremony today, so presumably the pairings will be known after that; I'm not sure if it is the 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc format?

Games start tomorrow 3 pm Hamburg time

Rest day Thursday 14th
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:52 pm

Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi
Nakamura - Topalov

Navara - Vitiugov
Wojtaszek - Grischuk


Radjabov - Dubov
Svidler - Harikrishna

Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi
Duda - Nepomniachtchi
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:58 pm

Pairings look ok from Shak's viewpoint I think, given that Wojtaszek & Grischuk can't both overtake him

Current standings
10 - Shak, Grischuk each with only 1 event left
9 - Nepo with 2 events left
8 - MVL with 2 events left
5 - Wojtaszek with 2 events left

Top 2 qualify for the candidates
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Alex Holowczak » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:52 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:19 am
Opening ceremony today, so presumably the pairings will be known after that; I'm not sure if it is the 1 v 16, 2 v 15 etc format?
For what it's worth, there were only 4 seeds.

If you want to know the format of a tournament, wikipedia is normally the best place to go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIDE_Gran ... ember_2019

Orgnaisations tend not to clutter their websites with that level of technical detail, because only hardy souls normally have an interest ... and they worked out to go to wikipedia long ago. :lol:

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:32 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:52 pm
Organisations tend not to clutter their websites with that level of technical detail, because only hardy souls normally have an interest ... and they worked out to go to wikipedia long ago. :lol:
Maybe, but World Chess / Agon "tend not to clutter their website" with any useful information.

They certainly don't tell you how to cancel a subscription to them, as has been explained in another thread

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Chris Rice » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pm

Results of the first two games:

Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 1-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1-1
Radjabov - Dubov 1-1
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1-1
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5

So Nepo is out and his chances of qualifying for the Candidates have been dealt a serious blow. So I guess we have to take that into account with what he tweeted out next:

"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue. At least I rejoice I shouldn't go there anymore. Good luck to remaining players"

In another tweet Peter Heine Nielsen proposed a way to stop short draws:

"People offer draws to avoid risk. Add risk to the draw offer! E.g. a 10 minute penalty for offering a draw. Or the more controversial, allow the opponent to play on with either colour."

Lev Aronian approved:

"Absolutely brilliant idea to allow the player who got offered a draw to pick side! Easy to implement and very interesting."

While Anish Giri thought the problem lay elsewhere:

" I think draw offer is ok, it is accepting the draw that is a problem. Ban draw accepting."

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:12 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pm
"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue.
Does anyone know what is wrong with the venue?

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Paul Cooksey » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:46 pm

Chess-News.ru has a reports poor lighting again, and Sosonko comparing the venue to a bomb shelter.

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Matt Fletcher » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:09 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pm
"Hamburg Grand Prix organisation recipe from @theworldchess: choose the most expensive and nice hotel and the most cheap and unsuitable playing venue.
WorldChess making friends with their response...
(“Sorry you lost bro.”)

And Nepo hitting back...
(“Fortunately, I’m not your bro, Mr. Golden Standard of pathetic organisation...”)

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:06 am

Matt Fletcher wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:09 am

WorldChess making friends with their response
As raised by Paul McKeown elsewhere on this site, they also get stick for attempting auto renewals of their pass for last year's World Championship access.

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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:16 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:46 pm
Results of the first two games:

Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 1-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1-1
Radjabov - Dubov 1-1
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1-1
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5

So Nepo is out and his chances of qualifying for the Candidates have been dealt a serious blow.
Yes, that leaves Nepo on 9 after 2 events, but with his win in regulation, MVL is already on 10 alongside Shak & Grischuk
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:24 pm

Vachier-Lagrave - Wei Yi 1.5-0.5
Nakamura - Topalov 0.5-1.5
Navara - Vitiugov 3-1
Wojtaszek - Grischuk 1.5-2.5
Radjabov - Dubov 3.5-4.5
Svidler - Harikrishna 1.5-0.5
Jakovenko - Yu Yangyi 1.5-2.5
Duda - Nepomniachtchi 1.5-0.5

Grischuk now leads the GP on 11 points, but is in his last event
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:25 pm

Vachier-Lagrave - Topalov
Navara - Grischuk

Dubov - Svidler
Yu Yangyi - Duda
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Re: 3rd Grand Prix Series KO 4 - 18 Nov 2019, Hamburg

Post by Chris Rice » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:39 pm

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:46 pm
Chess-News.ru has a reports poor lighting again, and Sosonko comparing the venue to a bomb shelter.
It does look very sturdy...
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