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European Club Cup

Post by John Moore » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:07 pm

Nice finish in Bagi - Zvaginsev today in this event - and no, I don't know how to put it up here. Actually, I think that Bagi should have allowed the mate which is quite an attractive end to the game.

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Chris Rice » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:17 pm

John Moore wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:07 pm
Nice finish in Bagi - Zvaginsev today in this event - and no, I don't know how to put it up here. Actually, I think that Bagi should have allowed the mate which is quite an attractive end to the game.
Bagi, Mate - Zvjaginsev, Vadim
European Club Cup 2019 round 02

with the idea 62...Kf5 followed by 63...Rh6+ 63 Bxh6 g6 mate. Nice.

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by John Moore » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:05 pm

Thanks Chris for the position!

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by PeterFarr » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:20 pm

The game Howell v Harikrishna in round 3 is one for masochists; currently on move 197, and it's 167 moves since the last capture.

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:35 pm

PeterFarr wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:20 pm
and it's 167 moves since the last capture.
Isn't the arbiter supposed to declare the game a draw at 75 moves if the one of the players hasn't already claimed?

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by PeterFarr » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:37 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:35 pm
PeterFarr wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:20 pm
and it's 167 moves since the last capture.
Isn't the arbiter supposed to declare the game a draw at 75 moves if the one of the players hasn't already claimed?
There have been pawn moves though. David has now made the only possible try, 200 b4

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:55 pm

PeterFarr wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:37 pm
There have been pawn moves though. David has now made the only possible try, 200 b4
With any pawn moves left for White blockaded, Black will presumably claim the draw at around move 252.

(edit) They've given up at move 236 (/edit)

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:05 pm

That's still one of the longest ever, no? And if we include only longplay games....
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Re: European Club Cup

Post by PeterFarr » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:39 pm

On the face of it, David Howell did an awful lot of messing around in that game, but maybe it was with a view to gaining time on the increment, so as to be able to have a good think at critical points. I guess it's an unintended consequence of increments that it makes sense to do that in some types of position.

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by PeterFarr » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:07 pm

Just noticed that Howell v Harikrishna from last year's European Club Cup, also in round 3, went a mere 85 moves, with David eventually winning.

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:16 pm

"On the face of it, David Howell did an awful lot of messing around in that game, but maybe it was with a view to gaining time on the increment, so as to be able to have a good think at critical points."

In the good old days, you did that to reach time-control, now it's to get extra time.

Did his opponent set a world record for the number of consecutive moves with the same piece, I wonder? I'm too idle to (a) count the consecutive moves and (b) try to find it on (presumably) Tim Krabbe's website. (Sorry about missing accent.) It must have been handy having all those bishop moves on the right side of the board and near the clock!

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Leonard Barden » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:23 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:55 pm


(edit) They've given up at move 236 (/edit)
Seems it's the fourth longest game in chess history, and would have been No2 if they had made another four moves....

https://www.chess.com/article/view/the- ... in-history

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:10 am

Howell, David W L vs Harikrishna, Pentala

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:45 am

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Re: European Club Cup

Post by David Robertson » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:27 pm

David Howell kicks off...
David Howell wrote:I resisted the temptation to tweet about the standard of arbiters at the European Team Champs but today's experience at the Euro Club Cup was even worse. Being shouted at aggressively, simply because I asked him to stop breathing down my neck (literally), was most unpleasant.

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