Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

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Who, if anyone, should resign following the stopping of the Candidates Tournament?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:02 am

Arkady Dvorkovich
3
9%
Nigel Short
3
9%
Emil Sutovsky
2
6%
Someone Else (Please specify in a post.)
0
No votes
No-one
26
76%
 
Total votes: 34

David Sedgwick
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Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:02 am

You can vote for one or more of the first four options, or for the fifth option.

The poll will run for 30 days. You may change your vote during that time.

I am not expressing any opinion, but I wished to give others the opportunity to do so.

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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:05 am

Maybe not (so far anyway) the result that some were expecting?
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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:00 am

I was a bit surprised by the question. Asking FIDE to acknowledge this has gone wrong and to try to do better seems appropriate. But it doesn't seem like an individual error or the result of anyone acting in bad faith.

I was tempted to vote for Short to resign, but only because that always seems a sensible option...

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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:20 am

Paul Cooksey wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:00 am
I was a bit surprised by the question. Asking FIDE to acknowledge this has gone wrong and to try to do better seems appropriate. But it doesn't seem like an individual error or the result of anyone acting in bad faith.
Calls for resignations have been made elsewhere, for instance by Justin Horton at https://twitter.com/ejhchess/status/1243095960013746178.

So I wanted to ascertain the opinions of members of this Forum. I named the three individuals who seemed to me to be the most public advocates of proceeding with the Candidates from the moment that Radjabov withdrew.

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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:38 am

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:20 am
Paul Cooksey wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:00 am
I was a bit surprised by the question. Asking FIDE to acknowledge this has gone wrong and to try to do better seems appropriate. But it doesn't seem like an individual error or the result of anyone acting in bad faith.
Calls for resignations have been made elsewhere, for instance by Justin Horton at https://twitter.com/ejhchess/status/1243095960013746178.

So I wanted to ascertain the opinions of members of this Forum
Why would the first of these things have anything to do with the second?
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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:41 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:38 am
David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:20 am
Calls for resignations have been made elsewhere.....

So I wanted to ascertain the opinions of members of this Forum
Why would the first of these things have anything to do with the second?
This looks entirely reasonable to me. Had David not backed up his opening statement with an example, you might have been the first to ask where he had found evidence for it.
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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:43 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:41 am
JustinHorton wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:38 am
David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:20 am
Calls for resignations have been made elsewhere.....

So I wanted to ascertain the opinions of members of this Forum
Why would the first of these things have anything to do with the second?
This looks entirely reasonable to me. Had David not backed up his opening statement with an example, you might have been the first to ask where he had found evidence for it.
Are you misunderstanding my point here Nick
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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:48 am

Ah, I do get the point now. You're saying that David's two-pronged comment might have stood alone rather than appearing as a reply to Paul's. Fair enough, but surely just a minor technicality.
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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by JustinHorton » Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:52 am

Ah, not quite, but I can see now that I shouldn't have included Paul's comment in the quote part of the posting.
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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat Mar 28, 2020 11:10 am

Paul said that he was surprised by the question(s) which I had asked, so I was seeking to explain why I had asked them.

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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by Paul Cooksey » Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:37 pm

For which I am grateful. That said, with all due lack of respect to Justin, has anyone whose opinion FIDE might care about asked for resignations?

I had not seen anyone go this far, other than those like eg Danilov who were fiercely critical already.

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Re: Stopping of the Candidates Tournament

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:03 pm

And they aren't a bad enemy for FIDE to have.....
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