Arona International

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LawrenceCooper
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Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:37 pm

Shreyas beat Alan Pichot with black in round 8. I believe that he needs to beat a 2492+ GM in the last round for his third GM norm.
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Ian Jamieson
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Re: Arona International

Post by Ian Jamieson » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:46 pm

There are 10 rounds not 9 rounds so he may still have a chance even if he doesn’t beat a 2492+ GM in round 9.

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Re: Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:59 pm

Ian Jamieson wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:46 pm
There are 10 rounds not 9 rounds so he may still have a chance even if he doesn’t beat a 2492+ GM in round 9.
Agreed, not sure why I said last round having just looked at the results from round 8 out of 10 :oops:

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Re: Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:45 pm

Round 9 pairing: GM Gorshtein, Ido 2563 6 v 6 IM Royal, Shreyas 2483

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Re: Arona International

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:32 pm

If that's a draw, what would Shreyas need in round 10?
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Re: Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:04 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:32 pm
If that's a draw, what would Shreyas need in round 10?
I'll look at that either when I wake up properly or if the game is a draw. It will include discarding his round 1 which may or may not help.

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Re: Arona International

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:08 am

Shreyas will have 2 consecutive blacks, so white in the last round presumably

Hopefully he will win today
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Re: Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:24 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:08 am
Shreyas will have 2 consecutive blacks, so white in the last round presumably

Hopefully he will win today
Yes, he'll definitely finish with white (albeit he would have wanted to be white today).

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Re: Arona International

Post by Leonard Barden » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:26 pm

I was startled to see the opening of Gorshtein v Royal: 1 c4 Nf6 2 Nf3 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 e5!? which appears to be a novelty of the last few years, notably used in Niemann v Woodward 0-1 in the 2023 World Junior.

After an hour's play and 17 moves, the queens are off and it's +0.4 to White, which suggests that whatever Lawrence calculates is needed for the final round will indeed be relevant.

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Re: Arona International

Post by John Moore » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:54 pm

Shreyas made the draw - now all depends on the last round, presumably.

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Re: Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:55 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:26 pm
I was startled to see the opening of Gorshtein v Royal: 1 c4 Nf6 2 Nf3 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4 e5!? which appears to be a novelty of the last few years, notably used in Niemann v Woodward 0-1 in the 2023 World Junior.

After an hour's play and 17 moves, the queens are off and it's +0.4 to White, which suggests that whatever Lawrence calculates is needed for the final round will indeed be relevant.
Game drawn. I'll wait for the pairings though rather than working out permutations which may prove irrelevant.

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Re: Arona International

Post by Ian Jamieson » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:21 pm

If my calculations are correct I think Shreyas needs to win against a 2583+ GM for his third GM norm (10 rounds - discarding his first round win does not appear to help)

In practice this means he has to be paired against Kazakouski as the other two candidates, Albornoz Cabrera and Gupta, are in a lower score group. The two of them are due opposite colours but I haven’t tried to work out the pairings on the top 5 boards.

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Re: Arona International

Post by Leonard Barden » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:54 pm

Ian Jamieson wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:21 pm
If my calculations are correct I think Shreyas needs to win against a 2583+ GM for his third GM norm (10 rounds - discarding his first round win does not appear to help)

In practice this means he has to be paired against Kazakouski as the other two candidates, Albornoz Cabrera and Gupta, are in a lower score group. The two of them are due opposite colours but I haven’t tried to work out the pairings on the top 5 boards.
Unfortunately it's Royal v Bartosz Socko 2556......

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Re: Arona International

Post by Ian Jamieson » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:55 pm

My calculations could be wrong.

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Re: Arona International

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:57 pm

Ian Jamieson wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:21 pm
If my calculations are correct I think Shreyas needs to win against a 2583+ GM for his third GM norm (10 rounds - discarding his first round win does not appear to help)

In practice this means he has to be paired against Kazakouski as the other two candidates, Albornoz Cabrera and Gupta, are in a lower score group. The two of them are due opposite colours but I haven’t tried to work out the pairings on the top 5 boards.
Yeah, doesn't look possible sadly.

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