39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by David Brock » Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:37 am

Jonathan Rogers wrote:I just realised that America is playing Vietnam today!
They better watch out for tunnels under the board then!!!
Think,check and then Move !!

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Andy Burnett » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:13 am

http://ugra-chess.com/livegames?gameid= ... =en&tmnt=1

Adams - Carlsen: ???? is that a real chess opening???? I'm pretty sure I played something similar when i was about 3 years old!

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Justin Hadi » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:18 am

Maybe it's the right way to play against the Pirc?

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:29 am

Andy Burnett wrote:http://ugra-chess.com/livegames?gameid= ... =en&tmnt=1

Adams - Carlsen: ???? is that a real chess opening???? I'm pretty sure I played something similar when i was about 3 years old!
If it has a name, it's called the North Sea Defence. I don't know why either.

Someone I've never heard of wrote a book on it.

http://www.chessville.com/reviews/North ... efence.htm

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:31 am

David Brock wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:I just realised that America is playing Vietnam today!
They better watch out for tunnels under the board then!!!
And Vietnam will want to watch out for the American board one, often called the H-bomb .....

I have a feeling that Vietnam may have erred already on board four, though.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Andy Burnett » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:34 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Andy Burnett wrote:http://ugra-chess.com/livegames?gameid= ... =en&tmnt=1

Adams - Carlsen: ???? is that a real chess opening???? I'm pretty sure I played something similar when i was about 3 years old!
If it has a name, it's called the North Sea Defence. I don't know why either.

Someone I've never heard of wrote a book on it.

http://www.chessville.com/reviews/North ... efence.htm
Welcome, dear readers, to the North Sea Defense (a.k.a. the Norwegian Defense.)
Now it makes more sense.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Nick Burrows » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:41 am

Why didn't Mickey take the knight??

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Maxim Devereaux » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:47 am

Black can get compensation in the form of pressure down the g-file. I lost a game to the North Sea Defence once, a long time ago, in the Major Open.

The North Sea is very appropriate for a match between England and Norway... I applaud Carlsen's choice, even if it is ('scuse the pun) taking the mickey a bit!

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:56 am

Nick Burrows wrote:Why didn't Mickey take the knight??
Even the obscure has web articles about it.

Try http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kaiss33.pdf

It's a pawn sacrifice. Black gets the g file and the bishop pair.

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Justin Hadi » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:57 am

Adams seems to be very solid. Seems likely to be a draw, but what do I know?

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by David Brock » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:02 am

Justin Hadi wrote:Adams seems to be very solid. Seems likely to be a draw, but what do I know?
Nothings likely when your playing Carlsen, it depends what mood he is in. As he may want to bash Mikey up later on or even grind out the win has he has against numerous other opponents in the past.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Ola Winfridsson » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:04 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Andy Burnett wrote:http://ugra-chess.com/livegames?gameid= ... =en&tmnt=1

Adams - Carlsen: ???? is that a real chess opening???? I'm pretty sure I played something similar when i was about 3 years old!
If it has a name, it's called the North Sea Defence. I don't know why either.

Someone I've never heard of wrote a book on it.

http://www.chessville.com/reviews/North ... efence.htm
The North Sea Defence was extensively analysed by Rolf Martens (1942-2008) from the 1980s onwards and I believe GM Tiger Hillarp Persson has played it a few times. Martens was very talented and won the Swedish Championship in 1967, and finished 2nd behind Yefim Geller at Gothenburg 1967/68 (ahead of Jansa, Westerinen and Gaprindashvili). However, he was politically active in the extreme leftist circles (Maoist) and disappeared from the chess scene in the early 1970s. He returned to chess in a sense in the mid 1980s (irregular appearances in local blitz tournaments in the Malmö region), mainly as an inventor and/or developer of a number of slightly bizarre opening systems. Among others, the North Sea Defence, and the Snake Benoni [Bf8-d6-c7-a5], which GM Jonny Hector played a few times in the late 1980s.
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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Justin Hadi » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:05 am

I'd back Mickey to at least draw from here, we'll see though...

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by Maxim Devereaux » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:11 am

I'm quite happy with England so far - it's pretty even across the board, but overall I get the feeling we are, if anything, a shade better.

Mickey has played safe against something he can't have been prepared for, but he's comfortable. Nigel seems to have equalised fully. Luke's Maroczy is sound and Gawain's got a slightly unusual Spanish, but I don't think it's bad (losing two tempi with Bc8-g4-c8 doesn't seem too bad, since it left him a c6 break, so his silly Spanish Nb7 might at least have a future on c6 or e6 one day

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Re: 39th Olympiad Khanty-Mansiysk 2010 (the chess)

Post by benedgell » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:13 am

http://games.ugra-chess.com/broadcast.p ... pgn&game=0

has analysis of the Adams- Carlsen game by Rybka.