Tata Steel 2013

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by AustinElliott » Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:42 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Hmm. It seems it is easier to go play through it on the tournament website than try and work out how to write it into the code used with the FEN/PGN generator here. :evil: :twisted: :roll:
*Adopts impressionist's-version-of-Jeremy-Paxman-style-accent*

"Yeeeeeees......'

The other problem is that only some versions of Flash pgn plugins support variations. I sometimes generate pgn files for my blog, but the version of ChessFlash there won't support variations. Seems a lot of work to put them in just to post something on the Forum, pace Geoff.

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Mick Norris » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:47 pm

Any postings on here represent my personal views

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:02 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: It seems it is easier to go play through it on the tournament website than try and work out how to write it into the code used with the FEN/PGN generator here.
This link has the pgns (up to round 8 at the time of writing).
http://www.tatasteelchess.com/tournament/games

Download the relevant file, open it with Notepad or any other text reader, then paste the relevant game to your message reply. Highlight the pasted material and click the square "pgn" box at the top of the page. I'm not sure of a short cut to generate FENs.

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Carl Hibbard » Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:05 pm

I was about to post but Paolo is now here
Cheers
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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Geoff Chandler » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:51 pm

Hi

Ray posted:

"I think playing against Carlsen must be a bit like playing against something like Rybka."

I'll disagree.

If Rybka thinks it's a draw then it won't try to win it.
Rybka cannot set OTB problems for a human player to solve.
It will not make a safe 2nd or 3rd best move if there is only one correct move as a reply.
It will play it's best move, even if it gives it's opponent a choice of safe replies.

The concept of wearing down an opponent is beyond it.

Also, it cannot play 67.g4 and 68.h5 like a human.

EH?

When a good player hits out with a move like 67.g4 with a neat flourish it's unsettling
even for a player of Karjakin's experience.
Us lesser lights simply fold up when it happens.

The notes call it a Carlsen bluff. But Carlsen 'sensed' now was the moment.
You play the move and suddenly adopt this confident pose.
This board presence cannot be under estimated. Tal, Fischer and Kasparov had it
and so too does Carlsen. Back this up with being a brilliant imaginative player and you
have this lethal cocktail.

Everything is under control when BANG!.
The world's number one player is suddenly saccing precious endgame pawns against you.
What have I missed, what has he missed, am I losing, am I winning...What happening?
Meanwhile No1. is sitting there with a look of disdain "Why are you playing on?"

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Ian Kingston » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:56 pm

Hou Yifan does not lack confidence: a Ponziani to test Carlsen's knowledge of the Black side.

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Ray Sayers » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:25 pm

Geoff Chandler wrote:Hi

Ray posted:

"I think playing against Carlsen must be a bit like playing against something like Rybka."

I'll disagree.
Thanks for taking one sentence out of context. My next sentence explained what I meant and was not meant to be a direct comparison of the calculation methods between Carlsen and Rybka.

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:20 pm

Ian Kingston wrote:Hou Yifan does not lack confidence: a Ponziani to test Carlsen's knowledge of the Black side.
Carlsen (and Van Wely) won today. Anand drew with Leko. So Carlsen is a full point ahead on 7/9 with four rounds to go. This tournament is 13 rounds. I think the Candidates Tournament in March will be 14 rounds. Different level of opposition, but still maybe a good indicator of form. I'll post more in the Candidates Tournament thread.

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Ray Sayers » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:25 pm

Carlsen's analysis is amazing. He sees so much. I love his Be3 trap at 10:55!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X27cvLgwiWQ

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:08 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:Never mind Anand, it seems that Aronian is in a bit of a slump right now.......
The slump appears to be over, 5/6 since that game :)

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:21 pm

Oops, that is embarrassing for Caruana. Rook entombed on h1.

Is Carlsen going to win another rook and opposite bishops game in double-edged complications against L'Ami?

EDIT: Yes. That was quick...

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:44 pm

Hou Yifan's second win (and again with Black) - I am sure that is being very well received.

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by David Robertson » Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:03 pm

Hou Yifan beat me too, with Black. (Ruy Lopez; Liverpool, 2007; skittles prior to GB v China match). That was very well-received too - with great mirth from the Chinese guys gathered around the board. I was distracted by organising duties though :)

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:48 pm

Speaking at move 19, after Hao as played Bg5, I should think that Carlsen really stands quite a lot worse. Predictions, anyone?Any one brave and imaginative enough to predict a Hao win?

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Re: Tata Steel 2013

Post by Ray Sayers » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:05 pm

I predict a draw. Wang seems to be playing for that.....