Anand v Carlsen

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:57 pm

AustinElliott wrote:The machines seem to think Anand's 51. ..Ke6 is a serious mistake ( 51. ..Kc6) and that he may now be in trouble
Which ones? Rook endings can be hard for engines to grasp because they don't necessarily get that pawn up (or two) isn't necessarily a win.

Machines which access tablebases when they get to a six-piece ending are a different story



That said, my non-engine non-tablebase enabled brain doesn't like the look of this for Black.

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:02 pm

And Anand has resigned.

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Clive Blackburn » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:07 pm

AustinElliott wrote:.... my non-engine non-tablebase enabled brain doesn't like the look of this for Black.
And Magnus liked the look of it for white! :)

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Ray Sayers » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:15 pm

I think another 7 of these types of games will be miserable for Anand - he will be exhausted! Time to sharpen things!

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Clive Blackburn » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:31 pm

It doesn't matter how good Anand's team is at preparing the openings, they can't prepare for all of the endings! :wink:

Carlsen is doing the right thing by playing nice, safe opening lines and then looking for a tiny endgame advantage,

The psychological pressure is really on Anand now :shock:

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Greg Breed » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:34 pm

This will really spice things up. I wish i was able to watch the commentary live today. Maybe i should have booked it all off as leave :( Bah too late now.
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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by John Cox » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:43 pm

>This will really spice things up

I don't reckon; on the contrary I think this is over. Anand needed to take the lead to draw Carlsen out. As things stand Carlsen's much the stronger player and has the lead; unless Anand can catch him in the opening with White I can't see a way back for him.

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:49 pm

Anand has white in the next 2 games, so will be interesting to see what he chooses to play
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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Clive Blackburn » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:08 pm

John Cox wrote:....unless Anand can catch him in the opening with White I can't see a way back for him.
Yes, Magnus is almost impossible to beat when he only needs to draw :)

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Ray Sayers » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:16 pm

Clive Blackburn wrote:
John Cox wrote:....unless Anand can catch him in the opening with White I can't see a way back for him.
Yes, Magnus is almost impossible to beat when he only needs to draw :)
Unless your name is Svidler :wink:

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Jonathan Bryant » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:39 pm

Clive Blackburn wrote: The psychological pressure is really on Anand now
I'm not sure he'll mind that as much as the 'being 1-0 down' pressure.

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by AustinElliott » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:48 pm

You'd have to think Anand's confidence will be a bit dented by this game, perhaps together with the latter endgame bit of the last one. He looked a bit rattled by the nuances and tricks Carlsen conjured up in the apparently dead 2Rs v 2Rs ending of game 4, and today Carlsen showed he could beat Anand in the ending from a simplified position which was pretty much dead level at move 40.

You'd think Anand would have to try and complicate in the (late) opening and middle game in his next two Whites, as that seems to be his best shot at beating Carlsen. Wonder if we'll see 1. e4 and the Berlin Wall again?

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Clive Blackburn » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:53 pm

AustinElliott wrote:Wonder if we'll see 1. e4 and the Berlin Wall again?
I can't see that really, Carlsen has proved that he can hold the Berlin endgame.
Anand needs a sharper opening line, maybe he has a surprise waiting.

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by PeterTurland » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:19 pm

Two words, stamina and confidence.

From today, it has been shown that the youngster from Norway has both.

The fact that he can also be seen as a sex symbol, can only be seen as good, if you believe like I do, that chess is an asset for the human race.

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Re: Anand v Carlsen

Post by Ray Sayers » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:21 pm

This just in....

'Anand spotted studying a copy of "Zuke 'Em"' :lol:

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