ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

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Who should the ECF support in the FIDE Presidential election?

Kirsan Ilyumzhinov
4
9%
Garry Kasparov
25
57%
Someone else
14
32%
None of the Above
1
2%
 
Total votes: 44

Sean Hewitt
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ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Sean Hewitt » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:16 am

What stance should the ECF take in the forthcoming FIDE Presidential election?

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:37 am

Sean Hewitt wrote:What stance should the ECF take in the forthcoming FIDE Presidential election?
Is there a suggestion that in any shape or form it should endorse Kirsan?

If the ECF is to join those Federations willing to sell their vote, it should demand an extremely high price.

If the ECF Board don't want to be shouted at by English players and the next Council meeting, the practical choices are somewhere on the spectrum from all out support for Kasparov to a neutral position. There might after all be a third candidate, although whether Council would endorse the ECF's own President is by no means given.

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:43 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sean Hewitt wrote:What stance should the ECF take in the forthcoming FIDE Presidential election?
Is there a suggestion that in any shape or form it should endorse Kirsan?

If the ECF is to join those Federations willing to sell their vote, it should demand an extremely high price.

If the ECF Board don't want to be shouted at by English players and the next Council meeting, the practical choices are somewhere on the spectrum from all out support for Kasparov to a neutral position. There might after all be a third candidate, although whether Council would endorse the ECF's own President is by no means given.
I concur completely. The worst possible option would be to drift into a position of supporting Ilyumzhinov without obtaining anything meaningful in return.

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Steve Rooney » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:48 am

Roger is right to point out that there could yet be other candidates, but if we are facing the current choice, I believe the ECF should wholeheartedly support Kasparaov since that is the only way to restore some credibility both inside and outside the chess world.

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Paolo Casaschi » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:49 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:If the ECF Board don't want to be shouted at by English players and the next Council meeting, the practical choices are somewhere on the spectrum from all out support for Kasparov to a neutral position. There might after all be a third candidate, although whether Council would endorse the ECF's own President is by no means given.
I remember from the Karpov attempt at the FIDE presidency that a presidential candidate should be presented/supported by his own federation. In that respect, which would be Paulson "own" federation? ENG, USA, other?

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Angus French » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:14 am

Isn't it too early for a poll? There may be other tickets; so far as I'm aware the campaigning has yet to begin in earnest; the election isn't until August 2014.
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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:17 am

some one voted for Kirsan - has Rupert Jones joined the forum?! :shock:

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:08 pm

And what, for that matter, is going on in the head of someone who voted "none of the above", given that "someone else" is on the above list?!

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Greg Breed » Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:42 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:And what, for that matter, is going on in the head of someone who voted "none of the above", given that "someone else" is on the above list?!
Clearly the vote is meant to reflect that only an Alien could fill the role!! :lol:
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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Reg Clucas » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:37 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:And what, for that matter, is going on in the head of someone who voted "none of the above", given that "someone else" is on the above list?!
"None of the above" could mean "nobody" - which is different from "someone else".

And by the way, it wasn't me!

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Carl Hibbard » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:52 pm

It was me I am appalled to admit :oops:
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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Matthew Turner » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:14 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:some one voted for Kirsan :shock:
Carl Hibbard wrote:It was me I am appalled to admit :oops:
How much is he paying you?

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by PeterTurland » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:20 pm

My 'someone else' is, Magnus Carlsen the 'King' of chess.
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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:37 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:
Jonathan Rogers wrote:some one voted for Kirsan :shock:
Carl Hibbard wrote:It was me I am appalled to admit :oops:
How much is he paying you?
I think Carl was replying to my other post; ie he confessed to voting for FIDE without a President at all. Something which requires a bit of thought, really.

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Re: ECF and the FIDE Presidential election

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:02 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:Something which requires a bit of thought, really.
You could instead have FIDE with a CEO who did the legwork, with a President purely for honorary and ceremonial purposes. After all not every country with a President as Head of State makes them their most powerful political figure as well.

It seems to me that if Kasparov is distrusted on administrative grounds, that someone else should do the day to day stuff and use Kasparov where he is likely to be effective, namely opening doors and providing ceremonial opportunities.