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Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:52 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Game 4 as a "must win" for Black sees the Sicilian. Magnus plays an open Sicilian but dodges the question as to which main line by playing the rarer 5. f3 idea. It has the advantage that you can play it, if prepared to settle for a draw, with comforting "occupy the centre" moves as opposed to the desperate attempts to maintain the initiative seen in some lines.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:53 pm
by Brian Towers
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Strange blunder. What did Karjakin miss?
The obvious answer is Ra1 winning the queen but I suppose you really want to know what idea he missed that he couldn't save the queen by perhaps Qc3, Qd2 or running away to h4 to try and counter threaten something against the black king. The best answer is probably the idea of the moves NxB+ followed by Ng3+ and Rh1++ which is kind of hard to stop without shedding the queen.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:07 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Hmm. Karjakin has played ...h5.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:16 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Isn't Nc2 just a forced repetition?

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:21 pm
by Angus French
Covered by @BBCNewsnight just now with Jovanka Houska, Malcolm Pein and Susan Polgar. Evan Davis describing the match as a "superpower standoff by proxy"; Malcolm Pein saying the match is a throwback to the 1970s and 1990s. Really?

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:28 pm
by NickFaulks
Depends whether you view Norway as a superpower.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:29 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Hmm. Bxe6, gxh4, Kh1 and set up Alekhine's canon on the g-file?

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:37 pm
by JustinHorton
Angus French wrote:Covered by @BBCNewsnight just now with Jovanka Houska, Malcolm Pein and Susan Polgar.
Ha ha did anybody ask her how many people were watching the match?

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:45 pm
by MartinCarpenter
Svidler really didn't think he'd finish it like that :)

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:49 pm
by Matt Mackenzie
Nice final touch, reminds me of Kramnik's coup de grace (also the 4th rapid game, of course) in 2006.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:50 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Ack, I missed the final few moves. Nice finish.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:04 am
by Roger de Coverly
Angus French wrote:Covered by @BBCNewsnight just now with Jovanka Houska, Malcolm Pein and Susan Polgar. Evan Davis describing the match as a "superpower standoff by proxy"; Malcolm Pein saying the match is a throwback to the 1970s and 1990s. Really?
Link to the iplayer coverage (December 2016 only)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t-30112016

When was the last time Newsnight had a feature on chess?

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:10 am
by Jonathan Bryant
Angus French wrote:Evan Davis describing the match as a "superpower standoff by proxy"
I’m not convinced that this was the most prepared he has ever been for a news item.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:12 am
by Joshua Gibbs
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Angus French wrote:Covered by @BBCNewsnight just now with Jovanka Houska, Malcolm Pein and Susan Polgar. Evan Davis describing the match as a "superpower standoff by proxy"; Malcolm Pein saying the match is a throwback to the 1970s and 1990s. Really?
Link to the iplayer coverage (December 2016 only)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... t-30112016
If TV licensing people come after me I m blaming YOU ROGER

I loved watching the match its the first one ive really followed.

Re: WC Match 2016 - New York 10-30 November

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:15 am
by Jonathan Bryant
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Nice finish.
Indeed. Watching without an engine I was surprised Magnus didn’t play Qf2 instead of Qxf4. Then when he went for the sequence ending in Rc8 check I couldn’t see the mate and thought he’d blown it.

THEN

the app I was watching on posted 0-1 and I nearly soiled the sofa. That really would have been the world championship of chokes.