England Olympiad teams announcement

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:20 am

NickFaulks wrote:So far as I can tell, there is still no significance in the order of names.
Agreed. Names and order can often change prior to the final submission the night before round 1.

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:08 am

Hard to see past Azerbaijan, China, Russia & USA in fight for gold I guess in the Open teams
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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:31 am

Both Carlsen and Karjakin playing. In theory, they could meet if Russia and Norway meet, but that is unlikely.

England (with a UK flag!) are eighth seeds (average rating of top four = 2672).

180 teams. Is that about normal, a record, or less than normal?

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:45 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: 180 teams. Is that about normal, a record, or less than normal?
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41st_Chess_Olympiad
A total number of 1,570 players participated at the Olympiad, with 881 in the men and 689 in the women's section.[3][4] The number of participating teams was 177 from 172 countries in the open section and 136 from 131 countries in the women's section.
So marginally higher than Norway, which was itself a record, or nearly so.

FIDE does try to sign up Federations from every territory that qualifies for membership. That's everywhere there's a national Olympic committee, which rules out Northern Ireland, Isle of Man and Gibraltar.

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:50 am

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: 180 teams. Is that about normal, a record, or less than normal?
Let's see how many actually turn up.

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:56 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Christopher Kreuzer wrote: 180 teams. Is that about normal, a record, or less than normal?
Let's see how many actually turn up.
That may depend on how many get visas :oops:

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:06 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote: That may depend on how many get visas :oops:
My guess is that everyone who has made a proper effort to get visas in advance will do so, although the process has been infuriating. Also there is still the backup plan ( the original one ) of turning up at Baku airport with a letter of invitation.

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:37 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote: FIDE does try to sign up Federations from every territory that qualifies for membership. That's everywhere there's a national Olympic committee, which rules out Northern Ireland, Isle of Man and Gibraltar.
That cannot be FIDE's criterion. Guernsey, Jersey, Wales and Scotland are in FIDE and going to Baku; they don't have national Olympic committees!
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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:09 pm

Tim Harding wrote: That cannot be FIDE's criterion.
It is now for new members. Scotland joined in around 1930, Wales in around 1970. Jersey and Guernsey got in as a combined Federation at around the same time as Wales and later in the 1980s were allowed to separate. In recent times, the Ulster Chess Union was turned down and the Isle of Man and Gibraltar were advised that it was a waste of their time to even try.
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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:09 pm

I think they joined before that "criterion" was introduced.

Is there a Kosovo team this time?
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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 10, 2016 1:14 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote: Is there a Kosovo team this time?
http://www.fide.com/images/stories/NEWS ... nnex_8.pdf
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They are already a provisional member.

Their listed team at http://www1.bakuchessolympiad.com/content/53

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:05 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tim Harding wrote: That cannot be FIDE's criterion.
It is now for new members. Scotland joined in around 1930, Wales in around 1970. Jersey and Guernsey got in as a combined Federation at around the same time as Wales and later in the 1980s were allowed to separate. In recent times, the Ulster Chess Union was turned down and the Isle of Man and Gibraltar were advised that it was a waste of their time to even try.
That is sensible and would explain it. Moves to reconcile the Ulster Chess Union and the Irish Chess Union happily seem to be under way.
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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:12 pm

Mick Norris wrote:Hard to see past Azerbaijan, China, Russia & USA in fight for gold I guess in the Open teams
I think France and India (even without Vishy) could well be contenders too.

The Netherlands, Poland and Ukraine also have team averages above 2650 and these things can come down to one or two key boards in head-to-head matches.
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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by Nigel Short » Thu Aug 18, 2016 5:44 pm

With less than a fortnight to go before the Olympiad, the England delegation has 5/13 visas.

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Re: England Olympiad teams announcement

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:32 pm

Nigel Short wrote:With less than a fortnight to go before the Olympiad, the England delegation has 5/13 visas.
Wales are expecting theirs by the 25th.

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