Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:10 pm

JustinHorton wrote:it does remind me that I get irritated by scoresheets where the columns aren't a multiple of five
Worth knowing should you ever decide to enter one of my tournaments. :twisted:

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Angus French » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:49 pm

I enjoyed watching Mickey Adams' rook ending from today (see after Black's 38th) but wondered whether it was won from the start? In particular, did White have to allow the swap of his b-pawn for Black's g-pawn, leaving his king distant from Black's remaining c-pawn?

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Joshua Gibbs » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:07 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Joshua Gibbs wrote:Anyone know where I can see Anna Muzychuk's game from yesterday please?
http://www.gibraltarchesscongress.com/r ... _17.htm#r1
many thanks

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Joshua Gibbs » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:12 pm

Angus French wrote:I enjoyed watching Mickey Adams' rook ending from today (see after Black's 38th) but wondered whether it was won from the start? In particular, did White have to allow the swap of his b-pawn for Black's g-pawn, leaving his king distant from Black's remaining c-pawn?
yeah i enjoyed it too though the people in the office space thought id lost my mind when I was watching it

it reminded me and others of this game : http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1126615

i dont reall understand engines but I *think* he did have to swap

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:13 pm

Angus French wrote:I enjoyed watching Mickey Adams' rook ending from today (see after Black's 38th) but wondered whether it was won from the start? In particular, did White have to allow the swap of his b-pawn for Black's g-pawn, leaving his king distant from Black's remaining c-pawn?
Do you think White erred in taking the bishop with the knight on move 38? OTOH, the outside passed pawn looks really scary for White (and good for Black), but what if White plays the rook to d3 and just sits there?

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:16 pm

Angus French wrote:In particular, did White have to allow the swap of his b-pawn for Black's g-pawn, leaving his king distant from Black's remaining c-pawn?
The stockfish at chessbomb points out the tactical problem. If 44. Kg1, then 41. .. Rb2





Some interesting opening ideas from Adams. If you elect to defend against 1. d4 with .. d5, you don't really want to be facing old Capablanca stuff that's very easy for White to play.

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:23 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote: Do you think White erred in taking the bishop with the knight on move 38? OTOH, the outside passed pawn looks really scary for White (and good for Black), but what if White plays the rook to d3 and just sits there?



chessbomb's stockfish reckons Re1 is 0.00. It's a lovely Knight on c4 and helps defend the b3 pawn by controlling b2 and a3. With the Rook on e1, annoying moves like Re6 may be possible.

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:37 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote: chessbomb's stockfish reckons Re1 is 0.00. It's a lovely Knight on c4 and helps defend the b3 pawn by controlling b2 and a3. With the Rook on e1, annoying moves like Re6 may be possible.
Indeed. And even in the rook endgame, the right move would have been to capture on b4 earlier and then (when Black plays h4) to play d5 and take the Black pawn on g4. It is not easy to play that sort of rook endgame, though.

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:57 am

Castling on move 35:


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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Roger de Coverly » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:31 pm

JustinHorton wrote:but it does remind me that I get irritated by scoresheets where the columns aren't a multiple of five. Anybody else similarly afflicted?
We discussed the "last move number" and the position of the time control on scoresheets some time ago.

http://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopic.php ... ts#p105223

The picture in the report on round 2 shows the Gibraltar scoresheets ending at move 68, with a logo in the way of going all the way to move 70. Alex McF suggested in the earlier thread that on a continuation sheet, you should start at move 9 as a proxy for 69.

4NCL sheets now end at move 70 with move 40 in bold.

In "How to Cheat at Chess", Hartston tells a story of how someone filled in a sheet in the manner of Ivanchuk with a gap or two. He then turned it to his advantage by allowing his non-scoring time pressured opponent to see his incorrect recording and the apparent arrival of move 40.

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Kevin Williamson » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:58 pm

Board 104 today is an interesting pairing:

104 131 GM Bellon Lopez Juan Manuel 2339 0 0 Cramling Bellon Anna 1954 227


Isn’t that father vs daughter? I guess that doesn’t happen very often.

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by NickFaulks » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:18 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote: In "How to Cheat at Chess", Hartston tells a story of how someone filled in a sheet in the manner of Ivanchuk with a gap or two. He then turned it to his advantage by allowing his non-scoring time pressured opponent to see his incorrect recording and the apparent arrival of move 40.
I suspect that has been quite common. I watched the late GM Leonid Shamkovich do this - he made 1.e4, e5 cover the first two lines, then carried on from there, so it was clearly pre-planned. He was facing an opponent who had been suffering from frightful time shortages, although he had a rating of about 1900, so it looked like overkill. I was later told that this tactic was taught to juniors in the Soviet Union.
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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Angus French » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:20 pm

Kevin Williamson wrote:Board 104 today is an interesting pairing:

104 131 GM Bellon Lopez Juan Manuel 2339 0 0 Cramling Bellon Anna 1954 227


Isn’t that father vs daughter? I guess that doesn’t happen very often.
Paehtz vs. Paehtz is also possible at Gibraltar.

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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:12 pm

The double-bishop sacrifice takes an early victim in round 3.


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Re: Tradewise Gibraltar Masters 2017

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:19 pm

Did the second bishop have to be taken? Is White better after say 13...f6 (or 13...f5)? I presume White still follows up with 14.Rf3. Actually, it looks like 14.Bh6 is a killer move there.