"Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Chris Rice » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:06 am

Michael Farthing wrote:Nevertheless the page does still have a box so describing him (top right hand corner)
It's a box that hasn't been updated for 9 years. If it gets updated (or disappears) between now and Monday that will send a clear message that the PB meeting will be similar to the one between Julius Caesar and Brutus + mates some time ago.

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:14 am

Chris Rice wrote: If it gets updated between now and Monday that will send a clear message that the PB meeting will be similar to the one between Julius Caesar and Brutus + mates some time ago.
Will Kirsan actually be at the PB meeting? He's declared that it isn't legitimate because he hasn't called it. That's subject to legal challenge as to whether the power to call meetings was notionally signed over to Makro.

At this rate we could end up with two bodies claiming to be FIDE. Much of the Presidential Board and the Executive being one and Kirsan with remaining loyalists being the other. It's happened before, not to FIDE but to national Federations.

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Chris Rice » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:29 am

Roger de Coverly wrote: At this rate we could end up with two bodies claiming to be FIDE. Much of the Presidential Board and the Executive being one and Kirsan with remaining loyalists being the other. It's happened before, not to FIDE but to national Federations.
Kasparov is very quiet at the moment isn't he?

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:32 am

Roger de Coverly wrote: At this rate we could end up with two bodies claiming to be FIDE. Much of the Presidential Board and the Executive being one and Kirsan with remaining loyalists being the other.
It looks as though it would essentially be Russia v RoW. Not easy to believe that the Russians would have the stomach for that, but you can't be sure of anything.
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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:36 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Roger de Coverly wrote: At this rate we could end up with two bodies claiming to be FIDE. Much of the Presidential Board and the Executive being one and Kirsan with remaining loyalists being the other. It's happened before, not to FIDE but to national Federations.
Kasparov is very quiet at the moment isn't he?
Well in the sense of being quiet about this.
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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:24 pm

JustinHorton wrote: Well in the sense of being quiet about this.
Didn't FIDE ban him from any involvement for a period for attempting to corrupt delegates by offering them incentives to vote for him?

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:33 pm

Chris Rice wrote: Kasparov is very quiet at the moment isn't he?
JustinHorton wrote: Well in the sense of being quiet about this.
Roger de Coverly wrote:Didn't FIDE ban him from any involvement for a period for attempting to corrupt delegates by offering them incentives to vote for him?
My recollection - I haven't checked - is than the ban was for a two year period expiring in September 2017.

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Chris Rice » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:56 am

Kramnik supports Kirsan: "The plotters have nothing on their side: not the law, not money, not authority" Apparently Ilyumzhinov has conceded it's impossible to challenge US sanctions but has now withdrawn all the powers he conceded to his deputy in December 2015. Can he do that? If you've ceded authority presumably you don't have the authority to reverse such a decision.

https://twitter.com/chess24com?ref_src= ... ess.com%2F

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:23 pm

Chris Rice wrote:Apparently Ilyumzhinov has conceded it's impossible to challenge US sanctions but has now withdrawn all the powers he conceded to his deputy in December 2015.

This would seem to be the latest statement. It's not on the FIDE site.

https://twitter.com/SilvioDanailov/stat ... 12/photo/1

It remains to be seen whether FIDE can function with the Presidential Board at odds with the President.

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:28 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote: It remains to be seen whether FIDE can function with the Presidential Board at odds with the President.
Don't see why not, since he's on ceremonial duties only.
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Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:42 pm

NickFaulks wrote: Don't see why not, since he's on ceremonial duties only.
The letter quoted in the Danailov tweet seemed to be saying that he was reasserting executive powers. An important one being the power to summon official meetings.

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:00 pm

I can't imagine Kasparov (or indeed Karpov) will welcome Danailov's intervention.
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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:00 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote: The letter quoted in the Danailov tweet seemed to be saying that he was reasserting executive powers.
Can't imagine he'll get far, but we shall see. I'm no lawyer, but his earlier renouncement of his powers looked clear enough to me.
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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by Chris Rice » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:32 am

Kirsan has flown in from Turkmenistan for the meeting https://twitter.com/ChessVibes/status/8 ... 7804461057

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Re: "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov announced his resignation as FIDE President"

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:08 am

Chris Rice wrote:Kirsan has flown in from Turkmenistan for the meeting https://twitter.com/ChessVibes/status/8 ... 7804461057
Interesting. Not sure how he can attend a "not the PB" meeting.
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