2018 World Championship in London

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Barry Sandercock » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:48 pm

Thanks,Christopher. It's working now.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:56 pm

Oh dear. It might end up 3-0 at this rate.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:05 pm

And Caruana has resigned. 2-0. Difficult to see him coming back now.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Chris Rice » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:08 pm

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:48 pm

Caruana possibly regretting his decision to accept the draw in game 12 of the classical phase of the match.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:17 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:56 pm
Oh dear. It might end up 3-0 at this rate.
Will be 3-0 unless Magnus the Merciful makes an appearance.

Caruana taking a moment to compose himself before resigning.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:19 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:48 pm
Caruana possibly regretting his decision to accept the draw in game 12 of the classical phase of the match.
Regretting his 24th move in game 8, more like :twisted:
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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:21 pm

Yes. That too. Caruana still playing on with Magnus now having two queens... (Caruana really wanted this, I think.)

Oh, he has resigned now. Carlsen retains his title.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Mike Gunn » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:25 pm

They think it's all over ...

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:25 pm

What a washout. After three weeks, we have learned that Carlsen is a better rapid player than Caruana. But we knew that already.
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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:30 pm

Fair play to Magnus though, this is more decisive than I expected given the previous course of the match.
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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Nick Ivell » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:37 pm

I would expect the more talented player to win at skittles. Magnus is the more talented player. But the stronger player? He didn't prove it. They could have played 24 games of classical with no one winning.

All in all an unsatisfactory spectacle, of interest to the connoisseur, but unlikely to bring new recruits to the game.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:41 pm

Full marks to Tim Kett for trying:

Why is this year's World Chess Championship so exciting?

As featured on BBC World Service Newshour
wrote:Norwegian title-holder Magnus Carlsen and American challenger Fabiano Caruana will head to a series of fast-paced tie-breakers after drawing in every game of this year's World Chess Championship. Former Welsh chess champion Tim Kett explains why this year's championship has been so exciting.

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Richard Bates » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:52 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:37 pm
I would expect the more talented player to win at skittles. Magnus is the more talented player. But the stronger player? He didn't prove it. They could have played 24 games of classical with no one winning.

All in all an unsatisfactory spectacle, of interest to the connoisseur, but unlikely to bring new recruits to the game.
I don't know, I suspect the whole thing was more interesting to the average casual viewer/interest than the established players.

It seems to me that it is a consistent pattern across a wide range of sporting events, that experts/insiders are consistently talking down their own product, often citing those other than themselves as those allegedly being put off by the spectacle offered. Whether it be cricket ("test matches are so boring/complicated to the average fan"), motor racing ("no overtaking"), football (various 0-0 championship finals), cycling ("Team Sky dominance"), golf (…. well OK i'll give you that ;) )

For the casual viewer it really shouldn't be too difficult to build up a narrative of "incredibly closely matched players, tension building up over time, couldn't be separated in normal time, one player finally cracking in the tie breaks etc", should those in charge of advertising the product so choose

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Re: 2018 World Championship in London

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:54 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:37 pm
All in all an unsatisfactory spectacle, of interest to the connoisseur, but unlikely to bring new recruits to the game.
When was the last WC match that significantly did??
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