Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

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Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Mick Norris » Wed May 31, 2017 2:08 pm

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Excellent line up, although anyone reaching the World Cup final will have to miss the event; £50K first prize no doubt accounts for the entries agin of the top 3 US players, plus MVL, Mickey Adams, Kramnik, Anand, Gelfand, Jobava and last year's winner Eljanov
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Post by Tim Harding » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:20 pm

Entries are basically closed now. Waiting list for players over 2000+.
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Post by Alan Llewellyn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:26 pm

Seems like an age ago I entered the 2014 isle of man masters event with very well known players, I am a 1461 fide rated patzer. I just wanted the experience of entering a top tournament with the famous players. I see they are limiting riff-raff like me these days.

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Post by Tim Harding » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:33 pm

Better go to Reykjavik then where the range of players goes from 2700+ to about 1100.

Mind you, with sterling behaving like the Incredible Shrinking Man, if you are a UK resident you might not be able to afford it.
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Post by Alan Llewellyn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:44 pm

it was like that at isle of man in 2014 their were players from 2736 to 1560 (my rating then which also has shrunk relentlessly like sterling), maybe my fide is linked to the pound lol...

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Post by Alan Llewellyn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:49 pm

Tim Harding wrote:Better go to Reykjavik then where the range of players goes from 2700+ to about 1100.
no I have had the experience, stuck on an island with the cream of chessplayers from Europe, losing every game, total humiliation. never again.

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Post by Alan Llewellyn » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:54 pm

Some of the games lasted about 3 hours or so and I nearly was a full piece up in one game but still 0/8 with the humiliation of a bye point sucks big time.

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Post by NickFaulks » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:37 pm

Alan Llewellyn wrote:it was like that at isle of man in 2014
You were a bit outgunned

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Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:18 pm

The Masters Tournament has a significant late entry.

http://iominternationalchess.com/player ... ew=persons

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Graham Borrowdale » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:20 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:The Masters Tournament has a significant late entry.

http://iominternationalchess.com/player ... ew=persons
So what happened to that waiting list? :roll:

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:49 pm

Graham Borrowdale wrote:
David Sedgwick wrote:The Masters Tournament has a significant late entry.

http://iominternationalchess.com/player ... ew=persons
So what happened to that waiting list? :roll:
Good point. That was detailed here (back in June):

http://iominternationalchess.com/news-m ... losed.html
Alan Ormsby wrote:"There are 28 players on the reserve list who have completed an entry form and are hoping for a place to become available in the Masters. In addition, there is a reserve list for conditions if players to whom I’ve offered conditions have to withdraw."
Good to see a competitive field at the IoM Masters become even more competitive.

In case anyone isn't clicking on the links:

http://iominternationalchess.com/news-m ... sters.html
STOP PRESS - Magnus Carlsen will play in the 2017 Chess.com Isle of Man Masters

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Post by Ian Thompson » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:43 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Graham Borrowdale wrote:
David Sedgwick wrote:The Masters Tournament has a significant late entry.

http://iominternationalchess.com/player ... ew=persons
So what happened to that waiting list? :roll:
Good point. That was detailed here (back in June):

http://iominternationalchess.com/news-m ... losed.html
Alan Ormsby wrote:"There are 28 players on the reserve list who have completed an entry form and are hoping for a place to become available in the Masters. In addition, there is a reserve list for conditions if players to whom I’ve offered conditions have to withdraw."
It makes no comment on how players will be selected from the reserve lists if places become available. Picking the highest rated player on the list wouldn't be an unreasonable selection method.

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Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:52 pm

Assuming they don't accelerate, Keith Arkell will miss out on Carlsen, but may well get a top 6 pairing. So that's where the lower half starts.

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Post by Alex Holowczak » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:43 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:Assuming they don't accelerate, Keith Arkell will miss out on Carlsen, but may well get a top 6 pairing. So that's where the lower half starts.
I had similar thoughts, until someone directed me to read page 3 of the Terms & Conditions.

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Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:48 am

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Roger de Coverly wrote:Assuming they don't accelerate, Keith Arkell will miss out on Carlsen, but may well get a top 6 pairing. So that's where the lower half starts.
I had similar thoughts, until someone directed me to read page 3 of the Terms & Conditions.
Quoting from here:

http://iominternationalchess.com/images ... asters.pdf
IoM Masters Terms and Conditions wrote:
Swiss Pairing System, including a random draw for the first round pairings

The first round draw to determine pairings will be fully random, i.e. any player can be paired against any other player. The draw for the top seeds will be public. Lower seed pairings will be made at random by computer. This is a brief step-by-step process:

1. Number 1 seed draws manually for colour and his opponent is chosen by drawing a number from a bag.
2. The next highest seed still in the bag takes the opposite colour from the number 1 seed and draws a number from the bag, determining his opponent.
3. This process is repeated to produce the first 8 pairings. If a player draws their own number then it is put back into the bag and the player draws another number.
4. The process is handed over to the computer to produce the remaining pairings, with the stronger player in each fixture having the opposite colour to the stronger player on the board above.

As of round 2, pairings will be made according to the Dutch Swiss pairing system, using the most recent Swiss-Manager pairing program.
Top eight seeds (unless there are more later entries) are: Carlsen, Vachier-Lagrave, Kramnik, Caruana, Anand, So, Nakamura, Adams.

MVL and So are still in the World Cup. Both can still reach the final (they are in opposite halves of the draw).

Next two seeds are Gelfand and Eljanov.

Is this pairing method new, or was it done this way in previous years?

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