Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:26 pm

As a 1.e4 player, I've never understood openings where White ignores his kingside for as long as possible. Bindrich - Movsesian is an extreme example.
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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:11 pm

NickFaulks wrote:As a 1.e4 player, I've never understood openings where White ignores his kingside for as long as possible. Bindrich - Movsesian is an extreme example.
Approach Akobian-Lenderman with caution then :)

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:19 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:Approach Akobian-Lenderman with caution then :)
What do you mean? He played an early h2-h4-h5 and Rh4, that's the sort of kingside development I do understand.
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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:25 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
LawrenceCooper wrote:Approach Akobian-Lenderman with caution then :)
What do you mean? He played an early h2-h4-h5 and Rh4, that's the sort of kingside development I do understand.
I was referring to the bishop on f1 and pawn on e2. That can't be something you are used to as a 1 e4 player surely? :?

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:02 pm

NickFaulks wrote: Bindrich - Movsesian is an extreme example.
The way the game actually unfolded, it was to keep the King in the centre for the ending.


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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by NickFaulks » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:06 pm

I don't like the way Caruana is going, playing passive moves very slowly.
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Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:12 pm

NickFaulks wrote:I don't like the way Caruana is going, playing passive moves very slowly.
Agreed. 22 Nf5 looked more natural with black needing to keep an eye on sacrifices on h6.

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Post by NickFaulks » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:32 pm

I'm already writing this off, and it isn't a good sign for a Carlsen-Caruana match. White won the opening prep battle, but after that it has just gone steadily downhill. What happened to the kingside attack?

edit : posted before 26.Nd2, d5! and the roof's falling in. I'm not claiming to be better than Caruana ( seriously!) but if you're not going to play the obvious 22.Nf5 or the computer move 22.Bd5, what's the point?
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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:13 pm

That appears to leave us with Carlsen on 7 against Nakamura on 6.5 tomorrow as no one else has, or can get to, more than 6.

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:22 am

Chess.com report on round 8. Great battle between Caruana and Carlsen today and the scoresheets seem reasonably legible. I note Carlsen (assuming that is his scoresheet on the right) takes down the total time taken by both players every five moves rather than every move. I'm wondering what the thinking is behind that?

All the talk seems to be whether Carlsen will go for a short draw as White tomorrow. Makes sense as does Nakamura agreeing to it and giving himself a nice little payday too. Beating Carlsen on demand as Black with the terrible record Nakamura's got in their head to heads seems a very tall order.

Meanwhile Hou Yifan for all the discussion about a possible meltdown earlier sails to a great result and has already secured the women's prize on 6/8 with Black against Anand on Board 2 in the final round.

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:28 am

If Carlsen and Nakamura agree a short draw, the arbiters might have a word or two with them. There are regulations against that sort of thing.

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:54 am

IM Jack Rudd wrote:If Carlsen and Nakamura agree a short draw, the arbiters might have a word or two with them. There are regulations against that sort of thing.
I don't see that there are - they (the arbiters) would be making themselves look silly.

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:20 am

T&C say
No agreed draws before move 30:
Draws by mutual agreement in fewer than 30 moves are not allowed. There must be no prearrangement to draw games of any length. Penalties may involve loss of prize money and suspected pre-arrangement may see the players involved not being invited back!
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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:37 am

Mick Norris wrote:T&C say
No agreed draws before move 30:
Draws by mutual agreement in fewer than 30 moves are not allowed. There must be no prearrangement to draw games of any length. Penalties may involve loss of prize money and suspected pre-arrangement may see the players involved not being invited back!
If a draw is clearly in both players interests then it isn't difficult to make it happen. Just go down some line which under current theory peters out into a draw. Plenty of those exceeding 30 moves, and won't require any "pre-arrangement" to achieve it. There is no obligation for Magnus to play for a win, and Naka likewise.

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Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:03 am

Ok, but that's not a short draw as such; I would be astonished if the game isn't a draw though
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