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Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 2:08 pm
by Mick Norris
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chess.com preview 29 May
Excellent line up, although anyone reaching the World Cup final will have to miss the event; £50K first prize no doubt accounts for the entries agin of the top 3 US players, plus MVL, Mickey Adams, Kramnik, Anand, Gelfand, Jobava and last year's winner Eljanov
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:20 pm
by Tim Harding
Entries are basically closed now. Waiting list for players over 2000+.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:26 pm
by Alan Llewellyn
Seems like an age ago I entered the 2014 isle of man masters event with very well known players, I am a 1461 fide rated patzer. I just wanted the experience of entering a top tournament with the famous players. I see they are limiting riff-raff like me these days.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:33 pm
by Tim Harding
Better go to Reykjavik then where the range of players goes from 2700+ to about 1100.
Mind you, with sterling behaving like the Incredible Shrinking Man, if you are a UK resident you might not be able to afford it.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:44 pm
by Alan Llewellyn
it was like that at isle of man in 2014 their were players from 2736 to 1560 (my rating then which also has shrunk relentlessly like sterling), maybe my fide is linked to the pound lol...
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:49 pm
by Alan Llewellyn
Tim Harding wrote:Better go to Reykjavik then where the range of players goes from 2700+ to about 1100.
no I have had the experience, stuck on an island with the cream of chessplayers from Europe, losing every game, total humiliation. never again.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:54 pm
by Alan Llewellyn
Some of the games lasted about 3 hours or so and I nearly was a full piece up in one game but still 0/8 with the humiliation of a bye point sucks big time.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:37 pm
by NickFaulks
Alan Llewellyn wrote:it was like that at isle of man in 2014
You were
a bit outgunned
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:18 pm
by David Sedgwick
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:20 pm
by Graham Borrowdale
So what happened to that waiting list?
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:49 pm
by Christopher Kreuzer
Graham Borrowdale wrote:
So what happened to that waiting list?
Good point. That was detailed here (back in June):
http://iominternationalchess.com/news-m ... losed.html
Alan Ormsby wrote:"There are 28 players on the reserve list who have completed an entry form and are hoping for a place to become available in the Masters. In addition, there is a reserve list for conditions if players to whom I’ve offered conditions have to withdraw."
Good to see a competitive field at the IoM Masters become even more competitive.
In case anyone isn't clicking on the links:
http://iominternationalchess.com/news-m ... sters.html
STOP PRESS - Magnus Carlsen will play in the 2017 Chess.com Isle of Man Masters
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:43 pm
by Ian Thompson
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:Graham Borrowdale wrote:
So what happened to that waiting list?
Good point. That was detailed here (back in June):
http://iominternationalchess.com/news-m ... losed.html
Alan Ormsby wrote:"There are 28 players on the reserve list who have completed an entry form and are hoping for a place to become available in the Masters. In addition, there is a reserve list for conditions if players to whom I’ve offered conditions have to withdraw."
It makes no comment on how players will be selected from the reserve lists if places become available. Picking the highest rated player on the list wouldn't be an unreasonable selection method.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:52 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Assuming they don't accelerate, Keith Arkell will miss out on Carlsen, but may well get a top 6 pairing. So that's where the lower half starts.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:43 am
by Alex Holowczak
Roger de Coverly wrote:Assuming they don't accelerate, Keith Arkell will miss out on Carlsen, but may well get a top 6 pairing. So that's where the lower half starts.
I had similar thoughts, until someone directed me to read page 3 of the Terms & Conditions.
Re: Chess.com Isle Of Man Tournament 23 Sep to 1 Oct 2017
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:48 am
by Christopher Kreuzer
Alex Holowczak wrote:Roger de Coverly wrote:Assuming they don't accelerate, Keith Arkell will miss out on Carlsen, but may well get a top 6 pairing. So that's where the lower half starts.
I had similar thoughts, until someone directed me to read page 3 of the Terms & Conditions.
Quoting from here:
http://iominternationalchess.com/images ... asters.pdf
IoM Masters Terms and Conditions wrote:
Swiss Pairing System, including a random draw for the first round pairings
The first round draw to determine pairings will be fully random, i.e. any player can be paired against any other player. The draw for the top seeds will be public. Lower seed pairings will be made at random by computer. This is a brief step-by-step process:
1. Number 1 seed draws manually for colour and his opponent is chosen by drawing a number from a bag.
2. The next highest seed still in the bag takes the opposite colour from the number 1 seed and draws a number from the bag, determining his opponent.
3. This process is repeated to produce the first 8 pairings. If a player draws their own number then it is put back into the bag and the player draws another number.
4. The process is handed over to the computer to produce the remaining pairings, with the stronger player in each fixture having the opposite colour to the stronger player on the board above.
As of round 2, pairings will be made according to the Dutch Swiss pairing system, using the most recent Swiss-Manager pairing program.
Top eight seeds (unless there are more later entries) are: Carlsen, Vachier-Lagrave, Kramnik, Caruana, Anand, So, Nakamura, Adams.
MVL and So are still in the World Cup. Both can still reach the final (they are in opposite halves of the draw).
Next two seeds are Gelfand and Eljanov.
Is this pairing method new, or was it done this way in previous years?