2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:12 pm

Fedoseev-So managed 19 moves before clocking off.

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Post by Mick Norris » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:15 pm

Yes, another 0.8 rating drop for So, but I imagine he'll be pleased with an easy draw with black
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by IM Jack Rudd » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:24 pm

Aronian is 50 minutes up on the clock. On move 10.

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Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:27 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:Aronian is 50 minutes up on the clock. On move 10.
Rumours that Zurab has forced Ivanchuk to buy a new pair of trousers mid-game have yet to be confirmed :roll:

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:35 pm

MVL made 8 knight moves in his first 10; is he playing a recognised line?
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:40 pm

Mick Norris wrote:MVL made 8 knight moves in his first 10; is he playing a recognised line?
Yes, albeit only 5 games with h4. One example:

[Event "67th ch-RUS 2014"]
[Site "Kazan RUS"]
[Date "2014.12.02"]
[Round "5.4"]
[White "Svidler, P."]
[Black "Nepomniachtchi, I."]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A34"]
[WhiteElo "2743"]
[BlackElo "2714"]
[PlyCount "60"]
[EventDate "2014.11.28"]

1. Nf3 c5 2. c4 Nf6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nb4 6. Bc4 Nd3+ 7. Ke2 Nf4+ 8.
Kf1 Ne6 9. h4 Nc6 10. d3 Ned4 11. Nb5 Nxb5 12. Bxb5 Qb6 13. Ba4 Bd7 14. Be3 e6
15. b4 Nxb4 16. Bxd7+ Kxd7 17. Ne5+ Ke8 18. Rb1 Qa6 19. Qh5 g6 20. Qf3 f5 21.
Rxb4 cxb4 22. exf5 Bd6 23. Nc4 Be7 24. fxg6 hxg6 25. Qg4 Qb5 26. Qxe6 Qc6 27.
Qe5 Qf6 28. Qb5+ Qc6 29. Qe5 Qf6 30. Qb5+ Qc6 1/2-1/2

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:56 pm

9 b4 used to get played a lot (9...g6!). There's a section on it in one of Watson's books
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Simon Brown » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:17 pm

Ivanchuk just resigned in a position which looked unpleasant but not resignable. Move 24 with 10 minutes plus increments left.

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Post by Chris Rice » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:18 pm

Simon Brown wrote:Ivanchuk just resigned in a position which looked unpleasant but not resignable. Move 24 with 10 minutes plus increments left.
Sokolov saying it was lost but to resign so quickly was the sign of a nervous breakdown.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by David Robertson » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:19 pm

Chucky chucks it in after #24. You'd say 'how bizarre', but it's ivanchuk!

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Post by David Sedgwick » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:26 pm

IM Jack Rudd wrote:Aronian is 50 minutes up on the clock. On move 10.
Have you been training him? :lol:

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:37 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Simon Brown wrote:Ivanchuk just resigned in a position which looked unpleasant but not resignable. Move 24 with 10 minutes plus increments left.
Sokolov saying it was lost but to resign so quickly was the sign of a nervous breakdown.
No, just that Bad Vasily was with us today.
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:06 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Simon Brown wrote:Ivanchuk just resigned in a position which looked unpleasant but not resignable. Move 24 with 10 minutes plus increments left.
Sokolov saying it was lost but to resign so quickly was the sign of a nervous breakdown.
Or maybe good match strategy i.e. not to waste more energy and save it for tomorrow and the need to win with white?
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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:10 pm

Svidler-MVL drawn after 41 moves.

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Re: 2017 World Cup 2-27 September, Tbilisi

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:06 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:Svidler-MVL drawn after 41 moves.
Thought Svidler might have got more out of that.

And I can't speak for their level, but even the final position would be played on by White in 4NCL.

Ivanchuk does indeed have a long history of just resigning when he is disgusted with his position (or his play), even though nothing like a clear winning line is in sight for his opponent. I think we will still see at least a real effort tomorrow. (He seems to have his wife with him, which might also help).

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