2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:22 pm

Bit of a commentary failure on chess24 that they haven't got around to noticing what's happening yet.

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Richard Bates » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:26 pm

To be fair Magnus gave up a queen against Mickey at London, so doesn't seem to have much respect for English players with extra pieces ;)

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Bryn Hill » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:37 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:17 pm
On course for the history books, to become the first English winner against a reigning world champion since Michael Adams at the Tromso Olympiad.....
Khanthy Mansiysk ?

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:37 pm

Leonard Barden wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:17 pm
On course for the history books, to become the first English winner against a reigning world champion since Michael Adams at the Tromso Olympiad.....
Surely since the time Adams beat Kramnik in 2002 or so? Adams beat Carlsen in the 2010 olympiad, long before the latter became world champion.

Still a test of nerve for Gawain, at the least.

Anyway, that seems to settle the verdict on the wisdom of Carlsen's opening choice!

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Leonard Barden » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:54 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:37 pm
Leonard Barden wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:17 pm
On course for the history books, to become the first English winner against a reigning world champion since Michael Adams at the Tromso Olympiad.....
Surely since the time Adams beat Kramnik in 2002 or so? Adams beat Carlsen in the 2010 olympiad, long before the latter became world champion.

Still a test of nerve for Gawain, at the least.

Anyway, that seems to settle the verdict on the wisdom of Carlsen's opening choice!
Apologies, my octogenarian memory creaked. Seems the correct latest precedent is Adams v Kramnik at the M-Tel Masters, Sofia, in May 2005. And meanwhile Gawain, failing to play g6-g5, is feeling the pressure.
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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:56 pm

I don't mind if Gawain draws this but really hope he doesn't lose.
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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:57 pm

Agreed. Engines think Gawain has let a lot of his advantage slip with 22...Qb6?! (instead of 22...g5 or 22...Bf8) because now 23 g5! gives compensation. Commentators compare this with AlphaZero's positional piece sacs.
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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Nick Ivell » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:06 pm

Let's not get too excited. It was never trivial. I'm sure it was a blunder but in return for his piece Magnus gets a pawn, safe king and no weaknesses. Compensation not to be sneezed at in the hands of a world champion.

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:21 pm

If I had this position as White in a rapid game I'm sure I would think I was winning. I would be very nervous indeed as Black.

update : he really did have to force the queens off, toast now.
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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:32 pm

That's premature, though I share your concern ...

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:11 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:57 pm
Agreed. Engines think Gawain has let a lot of his advantage slip with 22...Qb6?! (instead of 22...g5 or 22...Bf8) because now 23 g5! gives compensation. Commentators compare this with AlphaZero's positional piece sacs.
3 moves later he moves the queen back to d8. His position looks precarious now.

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by Nick Ivell » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:12 pm

It's starting to look as though Magnus can play almost anything against the best English players and get away with it. A sobering thought.

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:16 pm

Meanwhile Giri has become joint leader after outplaying Mamedyarov surprisingly comfortably.

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Re: 2018 Wijk aan Zee 12 - 28 January

Post by MJMcCready » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:28 pm

So he taken Kramink's crown away from him then.