2018 Gashimov Memorial

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by David Robertson » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:25 pm

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:17 pm
42....Ng4 looked very strong meeting 43 f3 with Qb8
Yes. But what was Ding thinking with Nxe6 - that he had an advantage? A big liquidation on e4 seemed way more sensible, albeit to keep the balance

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by LawrenceCooper » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:35 pm

David Robertson wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:25 pm
LawrenceCooper wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:17 pm
42....Ng4 looked very strong meeting 43 f3 with Qb8
Yes. But what was Ding thinking with Nxe6 - that he had an advantage? A big liquidation on e4 seemed way more sensible, albeit to keep the balance
Another draw.

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Chris Rice » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:46 pm

So far its Ultimate Perfection At Shamkir at least according to Anish Giri.

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:48 pm

This tournament is turning into a farce. You have to wonder whether the players are cross with the organisers about something and this is an organised protest.

Radjabov and Carlsen repeated the position after 15 moves, following exactly a "game" Carlsen- Leko seen in 2007 and since repeated many, many times by GMs disinclined to do a day's work for a day's pay. Karjakin and Navara did go the distance, drawing in 43 moves, but looked to be trying for some speed record and at the end White had 2 1/2 hours on his clock.

It is such a shame that this event commemorates Vugar Gashimov, a highly combative player who always tried to produce interesting chess.
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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by David Robertson » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:13 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:48 pm
This tournament is turning into a farce. You have to wonder whether the players are cross with the organisers about something and this is an organised protest....It is such a shame that this event commemorates Vugar Gashimov, a highly combative player who always tried to produce interesting chess
Precisely my thoughts too. I'd been wondering whether the ludicrously heavy-handed 'draws policy' might be the causus belli. ("You want to limit the number of draws? Here: how many can you handle!") The remaining games today look likely to run the continuous total up to 19 - though it's hard to see Topa-Shak fizzling out, as things stand (#21)

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:26 pm

Seven different reasons already have been put forward in this Chess 24 report such as Ding Liren and Giri being draw specialists, unusual time control, Mamedyarov, Karjakin and Radjabov are all mates of each other, etc. Perhaps there is some truth in each of the explanations though it certainly looks to me as if Carlsen and Topalov are really trying to win but just can't get it done.

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:28 pm

David Robertson wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:13 pm
though it's hard to see Topa-Shak fizzling out, as things stand (#21)
The chessbomb Stockfish is scoring it as almost equal. Presumably it reckons that despite only having 5 pawns to Black's 7 and the extra pawns being dangerous queen side invaders, White's attack is going to suffice for at least a repetition.

(edit) Later the attack won a piece, albeit for several pawns, a couple of which looked very dangerous. In the event the extra piece proved decisive. (/edit)

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:38 pm

Yes, thanks Roger, Round 4 gets us our first decisive result! Topalov 1-0 Mamedyarov. Let's hope we don't have to wait till Round 8 for the next one.

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Tim Harding » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:21 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:38 pm
Yes, thanks Roger, Round 4 gets us our first decisive result! Topalov 1-0 Mamedyarov. Let's hope we don't have to wait till Round 8 for the next one.
I was about to say: No you are about to get Giri 0 Ding 1. But then this happened

Surprising subtlety in this position where Ding had a big think (20 minutes).

White Kf5, pawns a2, b3, b4
Black Kb5, Bd2, Pa7

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Tim Harding » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:12 pm

Carlsen off the mark against Wojtaszek. 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 d6 3 d4 - what's that all about?
This guy just breaks all the rules!
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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Roger de Coverly » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:36 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:12 pm
Carlsen off the mark against Wojtaszek. 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 d6 3 d4 - what's that all about?
I had never seen it either, but it has been played a few times. It could be a relative of the known line that runs 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 although Carlsen used a different treatment by playing b3, Bb2 and Qd2.

Carlsen's move order also allows him to play a later f3.

You can also reach the position after move 5 with
1.e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qd2 d6 5. Nc3 Nf6
which is a sequence only likely to have been seen in junior tournaments or sub 1600 tournaments or pairings.

6 b3 appears the novelty as is plan of playing Bb2 and long castling, although that's seen in other openings.

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by LawrenceCooper » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:45 pm

Topalov won with black against Navara to move to +2, ahead of Magnus on +1. Mamedyarov, Navara & Wojtaszek are on -1 with the rest sitting on =5.

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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by NickFaulks » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:22 pm

I 'm surprised that Carlsen didn't play 17.Nd5. This move would certainly have been whipped out in a !970s weekend Swiss - it was the one idea that everyone knew.
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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:05 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:36 pm
Tim Harding wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:12 pm
Carlsen off the mark against Wojtaszek. 1 e4 c5 2 Nc3 d6 3 d4 - what's that all about?
I had never seen it either, but it has been played a few times. It could be a relative of the known line that runs 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Qxd4 Nc6 5. Bb5 although Carlsen used a different treatment by playing b3, Bb2 and Qd2.

Carlsen's move order also allows him to play a later f3.

You can also reach the position after move 5 with
1.e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qd2 d6 5. Nc3 Nf6
which is a sequence only likely to have been seen in junior tournaments or sub 1600 tournaments or pairings.

6 b3 appears the novelty as is plan of playing Bb2 and long castling, although that's seen in other openings.
The game is annotated in Chess Today 6377, with the curious note to White's move 5:
The main move is 5.Bb5.
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Re: 2018 Gashimov Memorial

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:12 am

Chess Mind analysis doesn't mention it, but chess.com does
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