Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

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Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Poll ended at Tue May 08, 2018 10:47 pm

Kirsan Ilyumzhinov
1
2%
Georgios Makropoulos
8
14%
Nigel Short
33
59%
None of the Above
14
25%
 
Total votes: 56

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm

While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here, may I point out that discussing things in this way does tend to exclude the large number of forum readers who will not know.
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here....
Well, I'm not! FFS, name the guy, no law will be broken!

(My best guess would be Dominic Lawson, but it's only a guess, since I tend to associate him with efforts to deny climate change rather than managing political campaigns).

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here....
Well, I'm not! FFS, name the guy, no law will be broken!

(My best guess would be Dominic Lawson, but it's only a guess, since I tend to associate him with efforts to deny climate change rather than managing political campaigns).
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:21 pm

I assumed they were talking about Phil Ehr, but I have to admit I was struggling to care. :roll:

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Michael Farthing » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:26 pm

Cluedo and chess clearly do not go together..

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm

The CSC clue isn't helpful enough! Isn't virtually everyone said to be involved, one way or the other?!

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:37 pm

It's like M&M Enterprises, everybody has a share
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:40 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:02 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here....
Well, I'm not! FFS, name the guy, no law will be broken!

(My best guess would be Dominic Lawson, but it's only a guess, since I tend to associate him with efforts to deny climate change rather than managing political campaigns).
Remind me never to be on your team in a game of Cluedo.
Can you have teams in Cluedo? (This would indeed have more implications for the Rogers household than the identity of the next FIDE President).

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:56 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm
Isn't virtually everyone said to be involved, one way or the other?!
You are looking for a name who is big in CSC, restored big in the ECF and a serial election fighter outside the world of chess (but possibly not winner).

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Michael Farthing » Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:57 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:56 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm
Isn't virtually everyone said to be involved, one way or the other?!
You are looking for a name who is big in CSC, restored big in the ECF and a serial election fighter (but possibly not winner).
The word 'advisor' might also offer a clue - particularly the sort appropriate for a closed game rather than an open one.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:03 pm

All right, all right! Next you'll be telling me that Malcolm never said that the advisor had been conspicuously successful in his own experiences!!

Personally, I still have my doubts, but now look what you have all done! Even I am not naming him now!

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:05 pm

Anybody wants to know just DM me (swift answers unlikely after 1730 BST as there's a film on the telly then some football probably more interesting than Group C).
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Stewart Reuben » Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:48 pm

Roger >If allowed, you wonder how "none of the above" would fare in a FIDE election.

Not at all well. But take the last US Presidential election. NOTA might well have won and would have been my preferred vote.
NOTA is a slap in the face for voluntary officers. To elect somebody else is one thing. To choose nobody at all, rather than a candidate, is soul destroying.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:23 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:48 pm
To choose nobody at all, rather than a candidate, is soul destroying.
Recent ECF experience has seen it used to remove an existing director or two, or express dissatisfaction with attitudes expressed by a prospective director.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Stewart Reuben » Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:13 pm

Roger. I understand that. I meant destroying the soul of the candidate.

I think it happened to me once. I was one of five candidates for a Head of Science position. The interviewing Board decided not to appoint any of us. I f you applied and somebody else got the job, fair enough. But it was awful when it was decided no candidate was good enough.

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