Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

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Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Poll ended at Tue May 08, 2018 10:47 pm

Kirsan Ilyumzhinov
1
2%
Georgios Makropoulos
8
14%
Nigel Short
33
59%
None of the Above
14
25%
 
Total votes: 56

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by NickFaulks » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:19 pm

Stewart Reuben wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:33 pm
They have also been flouted concerning the Laws of Chess.
Of course, because Rules Commission has no teeth. I doubt that Dvorkovich can be treated like that.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by IanCalvert » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:32 pm

Tim Harding wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:35 pm
David Robertson wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:20 pm
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And if, as Spraggett alludes, there were to be a stitch-up between the Russians and Makro - putting the band back together again - where would that leave Malcolm Pein and his ambitions for 2022? Answers in a single word, frankly
Toast ?
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:24 am

Seems like the fourth candidate is now announced.

https://www.chess.com/news/view/dvorkov ... -president

It's suggested that Kirsan will withdraw, having lost Putin's support. The Dvorkovich slate and Makro's might amalgamate, possibly dumping Malcolm in the process. The FIDE establishment votes will then be against the outsider, this time Nigel, as they were in 2006, 2010 and 2014.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Mark Adams » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:03 pm

If AD and GM team up, which is entirely possible now, then I hope MP and NS will do the same - I'm not sure of the current relationship between Malcolm and Nigel, but together they could well make a formidable challenge.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:13 pm

Interesting view X Soviet
Organising international chess events has always been important to Russia - plus using FIDE for money laundering
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by David Robertson » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:06 pm

Mark Adams wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:03 pm
If AD and GM team up, which is entirely possible now, then I hope MP and NS will do the same
Yes, it would solve a lot of problems, and make plenty of sense - for many of us, certainly
I'm not sure of the current relationship between Malcolm and Nigel
The relationship remains civil, possibly cordial. Words have been said. But both are intelligent grown-ups, and have known each other for years, warts/foibles and all. They have met at Leuven, and will doubtless have had plenty to chew over, given developments
together they could well make a formidable challenge
Alas, not. Not in prospects of winning anyway. They'd make a formidable case for cleaning up FIDE. But FIDE delegates don't want things 'cleaned up'. They want more of the gravy train. Makro and Sundar are addicted to gravy. So the Russians will supply it in return for influence and control

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:20 pm

David Robertson wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:06 pm
But FIDE delegates don't want things 'cleaned up'.
Unfortunately true. I think it's been the case for some while that the only certain way of preventing Kirsan's presidency being for life would be if Putin sacked him.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:36 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:13 pm
Interesting view X Soviet
Organising international chess events has always been important to Russia - plus using FIDE for money laundering
X Soviet really does lose the plot sometimes. Seriously, how many billions does she think can you launder through chess?

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by Mick Norris » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Much easier to use London property?
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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:57 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:11 pm
Much easier to use London property?
Precisely. The entire amount you could push through FIDE in a year wouldn't buy one top end Kensington flat.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by David Sedgwick » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:26 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:36 pm
X Soviet really does lose the plot sometimes.
Indeed she does. Some of us remember all too well her time as editor of Chess Moves, then the BCF's official newsletter, in the late 1990s.


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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by shaunpress » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:57 am

David Robertson wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:06 pm
But FIDE delegates don't want things 'cleaned up'.
And those Federations who do want things cleaned up often find there delegates replaced by the FIDE Electoral Commission.In 2014 there were six challenges by the Kirsan campaign. This resulted in a 6-0 result in their favour. https://www.chess.com/news/view/delegat ... tions-6742


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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Post by JustinHorton » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:54 am

David Robertson wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:06 pm
Mark Adams wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:03 pm
If AD and GM team up, which is entirely possible now, then I hope MP and NS will do the same
I'm not sure of the current relationship between Malcolm and Nigel
The relationship remains civil, possibly cordial. Words have been said. But both are intelligent grown-ups
This is a matter of dispute
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