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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
by JustinHorton
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here, may I point out that discussing things in this way does tend to exclude the large number of forum readers who will not know.

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm
by Jonathan Rogers
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here....
Well, I'm not! FFS, name the guy, no law will be broken!

(My best guess would be Dominic Lawson, but it's only a guess, since I tend to associate him with efforts to deny climate change rather than managing political campaigns).

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:02 pm
by Alex Holowczak
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here....
Well, I'm not! FFS, name the guy, no law will be broken!

(My best guess would be Dominic Lawson, but it's only a guess, since I tend to associate him with efforts to deny climate change rather than managing political campaigns).
Remind me never to be on your team in a game of Cluedo.

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:21 pm
by Matthew Turner
I assumed they were talking about Phil Ehr, but I have to admit I was struggling to care. :roll:

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:26 pm
by Michael Farthing
Cluedo and chess clearly do not go together..

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm
by Jonathan Rogers
The CSC clue isn't helpful enough! Isn't virtually everyone said to be involved, one way or the other?!

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:37 pm
by JustinHorton
It's like M&M Enterprises, everybody has a share

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:40 pm
by Jonathan Rogers
Alex Holowczak wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:02 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:57 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:01 pm
While I am fairly sure who is being referred to here....
Well, I'm not! FFS, name the guy, no law will be broken!

(My best guess would be Dominic Lawson, but it's only a guess, since I tend to associate him with efforts to deny climate change rather than managing political campaigns).
Remind me never to be on your team in a game of Cluedo.
Can you have teams in Cluedo? (This would indeed have more implications for the Rogers household than the identity of the next FIDE President).

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:56 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm
Isn't virtually everyone said to be involved, one way or the other?!
You are looking for a name who is big in CSC, restored big in the ECF and a serial election fighter outside the world of chess (but possibly not winner).

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:57 pm
by Michael Farthing
Roger de Coverly wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:56 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:35 pm
Isn't virtually everyone said to be involved, one way or the other?!
You are looking for a name who is big in CSC, restored big in the ECF and a serial election fighter (but possibly not winner).
The word 'advisor' might also offer a clue - particularly the sort appropriate for a closed game rather than an open one.

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:03 pm
by Jonathan Rogers
All right, all right! Next you'll be telling me that Malcolm never said that the advisor had been conspicuously successful in his own experiences!!

Personally, I still have my doubts, but now look what you have all done! Even I am not naming him now!

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:05 pm
by JustinHorton
Anybody wants to know just DM me (swift answers unlikely after 1730 BST as there's a film on the telly then some football probably more interesting than Group C).

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:48 pm
by Stewart Reuben
Roger >If allowed, you wonder how "none of the above" would fare in a FIDE election.

Not at all well. But take the last US Presidential election. NOTA might well have won and would have been my preferred vote.
NOTA is a slap in the face for voluntary officers. To elect somebody else is one thing. To choose nobody at all, rather than a candidate, is soul destroying.

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:23 pm
by Roger de Coverly
Stewart Reuben wrote:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:48 pm
To choose nobody at all, rather than a candidate, is soul destroying.
Recent ECF experience has seen it used to remove an existing director or two, or express dissatisfaction with attitudes expressed by a prospective director.

Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:13 pm
by Stewart Reuben
Roger. I understand that. I meant destroying the soul of the candidate.

I think it happened to me once. I was one of five candidates for a Head of Science position. The interviewing Board decided not to appoint any of us. I f you applied and somebody else got the job, fair enough. But it was awful when it was decided no candidate was good enough.