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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Paul Dargan » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:43 pm

Ah yes - the not-so-common challenge of being downfloated to Russia - must be a while since that happened for us!

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by David Shepherd » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:50 pm

In the women's its worth noting that for Scotland Keti has now moved on to 8.5/9.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Nick Burrows » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:00 pm

So Poland V China & Armenia V USA finish draws. England beat Russia.

Then all that remains is for LUKE MCSHANE to DESTROY Poland for Golden GLORY!!!!111!!!

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Richard Bates » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:07 pm

Nick Burrows wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:00 pm
So Poland V China & Armenia V USA finish draws. England beat Russia.

Then all that remains is for LUKE MCSHANE to DESTROY Poland for Golden GLORY!!!!111!!!
So about that David Howell quote cheekily suggesting that maybe England will win Gold to prove that Nigel has been holding the team back all these years... ;)

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:09 pm

Paul Dargan wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:43 pm
- must be a while since that happened for us!
Not a float, but England faced Russia in 2013 in the European when both teams had a win and a loss apiece. That was a 2-2 draw.

http://www.olimpbase.org/2013e/2013eng.html

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:11 pm

I hope Richard's prediction comes true!

However, dropping to Match 87 for a moment, Chess-results (as well as Chess24) has Peter Rowe winning on Board 2, but unless a Tanzanian phone went off, surely it's a draw?

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Nick Burrows » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:16 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:07 pm
So about that David Howell quote cheekily suggesting that maybe England will win Gold to prove that Nigel has been holding the team back all these years... ;)
Would be quite ironic; Just as Short gets handcuffed to Putin's bedframe the remaining players win gold without him :lol:

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:16 pm

Just comparing the two Russia sides, both of which had poor results early on and have dragged themselves back into it: the Open side has fourteen points, as do the women, and five teams ahead of them on points (four on 15, one on 16) whereas there are four ahead of the women (three on 15, one 16). I'm thinking the women might still win it, by beating Ukraine tomorrow and China on the last day (it's not quite that simple, I know) but the Open side might have left themselves too much to do whatever?
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:21 pm

Kevin Thurlow wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:11 pm
Peter Rowe winning on Board 2, but unless a Tanzanian phone went off, surely it's a draw?
chessbomb shows the clock times with White only showing 18 seconds. A loss on time is plausible, especially as White was winning before he got hit with the Nc5 cheapo on move 33.


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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Mick Norris » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:33 pm

David Robertson wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:35 pm
Russia, huh. The ECF Board won't like that!
Indeed, though we'll presumably not refuse to play them

Howell v Kramnik would be good with a board medal at stake (Cori is miles ahead, and now Piorun of Poland is in second just ahead of David)
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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:53 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:38 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:36 am
Not for the first time, Roger beat me to it

There are category prizes for lower ranked teams

Lewis Martin is on the CM list
And now there are lists for various norms (not yet populated, but maybe soon) and a list for Fide Master titles (I assume these are direct titles earned at a tournament or competitions such as Olympiads, rather than by rating):

Lewis Martin (ENG) is currently on the Fide Master (FM) list! :D

He has been winning while the ICCD team have been losing, so should be able to keep winning. Am not clear if this means he can already claim the title, or if he needs to sustain his 2300+ performance to the end of the event? [Actually, chess-results shows his rating performance as 2294 so far with 7/9.]

Martin Walker won again, to get to 6.5/8, a 2372 performance and a gain of 57 rating points, though he already has the FM title.

[EDIT: Ben Hague also doing well, with 5.5/8 and a 2446 performance.]
There is a trap here.

The FM and CM lists on Chess-Results show those who have obained 66.67% over 9 games and 50% over 7 games respectively. At an Olympiad this used to suffice for the title.

However, as has been discussed in the Take 2 election thread, you now also need a previous or subsequent rating of 2100 or 2000 respectively.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:19 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:53 pm
However, as has been discussed in the Take 2 election thread, you now also need a previous or subsequent rating of 2100 or 2000 respectively.
Lewis is only a couple of decent results away from 2200 anyway.

Do you still win a rating as well as the title? Perhaps not, or it doesn't matter, as these days unrated players in major events are a rarity

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:22 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:19 pm
Do you still win a rating as well as the title?
No.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:29 pm

"Peter Rowe winning on Board 2, but unless a Tanzanian phone went off, surely it's a draw?

chessbomb shows the clock times with White only showing 18 seconds. A loss on time is plausible, especially as White was winning before he got hit with the Nc5 cheapo on move 33."

Roger is right (not for the first time). Peter Rowe says he won on time.

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Re: Batumi Olympiad

Post by Keith Arkell » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:52 pm

Richard Bates wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:07 pm
So about that David Howell quote cheekily suggesting that maybe England will win Gold to prove that Nigel has been holding the team back all these years... ;)
The Old Gits team could only win Silver without Nigel, a few months ago, but it was close :lol:

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