Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:51 am
True Justin, the ECF doesn't have to vote, but I think we should vote, even if only against the other candidates
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Added it but yes sorry the counts reset nothing I can do now please vote again.Carl Hibbard wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:50 amI can add it but I think the poll count resets?David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:40 amSorry, I forgot.
Carl, is it possible to edit the poll?
Sometimes Delegates accept the free hotel room and airfare and are then marked as absent from the meeting.
GM Granda Zuniga is current 50+ Senior World Champion and Zu Chen is of course a former Women's World Champion from China, but for many years now married to an IM (?) from Qatar.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:33 amIf Latin America is really in play then we may have a contest. However, Granda Zuniga is a lone wolf and I do not know whether he even brings Peru's vote.Chris Rice wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:42 amI especially like the inclusion of Peru’s Julio Granda, a personal friend of my wife and I. I have no doubt that he will bring a large slice of South American votes with him."
He has done that.Tim Harding wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:19 pmCome on Nigel; beef up your team while there is still time.
Thank you for your help, Carl.Carl Hibbard wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:52 amAdded it but yes sorry the counts reset nothing I can do now please vote again.Carl Hibbard wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:50 amI can add it but I think the poll count resets?David Sedgwick wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:40 am
Sorry, I forgot.
Carl, is it possible to edit the poll?
Mick Norris wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:47 amI noticed that, but in the end, the ECF has to vote for someone, even if it is the least worst candidate (which would be Nigel in my view)
As I understand it, Federations present at the roll call are called up individually to cast their votes.
Julie Denning wrote:The FIDE Regulations don't seem to specify what happens beyond a first ballot, but I have put this question to Malcolm who informed me that the bottom candidate drops out. No doubt Nick Faulks can also confirm this.
On previous occasions when there have been three candidates and none of them has won an overall majority on the first ballot, the third placed candidate has indeed dropped out.NickFaulks wrote:No I can't, but I am pursuing it. After the huge legal costs wasted on haggling with Kasparov's American lawyers in Istanbul on every word of the Statutes, surely this basic point was not missed?
... which doesn't seem clear to me.FIDE Electoral Regulations wrote:3.7 For all elections a majority of the votes cast, not counting abstentions, shall be required. If there is a tie, the voting is repeated until the tie is broken. If three or more persons are nominated for the same offices or office, the candidates that receive 50% plus one of the votes cast, are elected on the first ballot. Thereafter, the candidates receiving most votes on the second ballot are elected to the vacant number of offices. If there is a tie, the voting is repeated until the tie is broken...
We don't know whether they have been asked.Angus French wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:01 pmSo: the ECF has until early Tuesday afternoon (3 July, 17:00 Athens time) to decide whether to nominate one of the tickets.
Yes I had seen that and there is no mention of a candidate being eliminated after the 1st ballotAngus French wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:44 pmFrom the Electoral Regulations chapter of the FIDE Handbook there's this:
... which doesn't seem clear to me.FIDE Electoral Regulations wrote:3.7 For all elections a majority of the votes cast, not counting abstentions, shall be required. If there is a tie, the voting is repeated until the tie is broken. If three or more persons are nominated for the same offices or office, the candidates that receive 50% plus one of the votes cast, are elected on the first ballot. Thereafter, the candidates receiving most votes on the second ballot are elected to the vacant number of offices. If there is a tie, the voting is repeated until the tie is broken...
Mick,Mick Norris wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:23 pmYes I had seen that and there is no mention of a candidate being eliminated after the 1st ballotAngus French wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:44 pmFrom the Electoral Regulations chapter of the FIDE Handbook there's this:
... which doesn't seem clear to me.FIDE Electoral Regulations wrote:3.7 For all elections a majority of the votes cast, not counting abstentions, shall be required. If there is a tie, the voting is repeated until the tie is broken. If three or more persons are nominated for the same offices or office, the candidates that receive 50% plus one of the votes cast, are elected on the first ballot. Thereafter, the candidates receiving most votes on the second ballot are elected to the vacant number of offices. If there is a tie, the voting is repeated until the tie is broken...
So 1st ballot you need a majority of those voting
2nd ballot you just need the most votes
3rd ballot only applies if the 2nd ballot is a tie
NickFaulks wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:15 pmThis presumably means that Dvorkovich has the support of the French Federation. I did not expect that.
It looks as though Makropoulos may have lost the support of both France and Poland in one day.NickFaulks wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:22 pmLukasz Turlej, whom I do not believe I know, is a Deputy President of the Polish Federation. Perhaps [Short] has Poland onside?