Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

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Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election?

Poll ended at Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:05 am

Arkady Dvorkovich
5
11%
Georgios Makropoulos
9
20%
Nigel Short
22
48%
None of the Above
10
22%
 
Total votes: 46

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:52 am

Christopher, the answer to most of your questions is that when the meeting is chaired by one of the candidates anything is possible.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:59 am

Heh. Having managed to open the pdf of the agenda, I see the election is item 4 on the agenda. I remember appointment of scrutineers being contentious in the past, so I take your point Nick. Chaos is possible and likely!

The agenda as published covers all three days allowed for the General Assembly in the Congress schedule, yes? No rest day for the players. Rounds 9, 10 and 11 are today, Thurs (both at normal 3pm time) and at 11am on Fri (local times?). Last round early start. Oh well.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:03 am

"Chaos" now as the translation machines have failed, and the non-English speaking delegate can't be understood on the Bulgarian item on the agenda.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:14 am

The PB member who suggested earlier ( and not entirely unreasonably ) that we were hearing disproportionally from the African continent has now made a grovelling apology for any offence inadvertantly given.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:17 am

We have done Bulgaria, approving the new Federation, and we seem to have skipped lunch and moved on to the election.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Angus French » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:24 am

Two Twitter accounts worth following for coverage of the GA meeting and the election: https://twitter.com/ChesscomNews and https://twitter.com/shaunpress.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Alex Holowczak » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:27 am

Terms of the election agreed by the three candidates. 1st round: 50% + 1, 2nd round: First Past the Post, but all three candidates are eligible to stand in the 2nd round.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:30 am

All three candidates are agreed that the election rules are clear but now Rivello, bless him, has explained that they are really not.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Angus French » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:47 am

So why weren't these issues raised and addressed before the meeting?

Also, if it's needed, when will the second vote take place (how long after the first vote)? Possibly this could be important for horse trading.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:58 am

Vote for scrutineers is a shambles, but maybe that doesn't matter.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:59 am

Angus French wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:47 am
Also, if it's needed, when will the second vote take place (how long after the first vote)? Possibly this could be important for horse trading.
Yes, and that is where it certainly helps to be chairing the meeting. Makro can call for the second ballot at the optimal moment.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:06 am

So far as you can tell, scrutineers look positive for Dvorko.

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am

NickFaulks wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:06 am
So far as you can tell, scrutineers look positive for Dvorko.
Do you mean the voting is taking place and you are trying to read the body language of the scrutineers?
How is the voting taking place? Is it a card vote?

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:26 am

Angus French wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:24 am
Two Twitter accounts worth following for coverage of the GA meeting and the election: https://twitter.com/ChesscomNews and https://twitter.com/shaunpress.
Thanks, though Shaun said:
Ok. Elections about to start, just as I have to go and play :(
ChesscomNews said:
Assembly agrees that IA Carol Jarecki will again be the chairman of the scrutineers commission. The other members, elected by vote: Joan Antoni Obregon Gutierrez from Andora and Finnbjorn Vang from Faroe Islands. But now there's a coffee break! #tensionbuilding

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Re: Which Candidate Should the ECF Support in the FIDE Presidential Election? (Take 2)

Post by NickFaulks » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:39 am

May have been a coffee break, but no coffee or in fact any sustinence at all,

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