Biel 2018

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Re: Biel 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:29 pm

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Magnus blundered and lost. Why not 56...Bb4 which might hold (at least to R v R+B)?
And why 57 Kh3 rather than push the pawn? Did he think he was going to be mated on h2? Even more inexplicably, why did Magnus then forget about the e-pawn?
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:49 pm

Transmission errors? Analysis after the game finished? Or did Carlsen really blunder?

EDIT: It was a gross blunder. He thought there was a mate, presumably. :roll:

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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:59 pm

So, we keep waiting for Magnus to get his form back. He starts tournaments with +2 after two or three rounds and each time we think "finally!". But we have really lost track of for how long this has carried on, and by now all ordinary indicators are surely that Caruana is the favourite for the title. (Of course, there may be more to it than that - maybe Carlsen is just impatient to play the match and can't concentrate in the interim. Still,..)

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Re: Biel 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:10 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
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by now all ordinary indicators are surely that Caruana is the favourite for the title
Slight exaggeration possibly
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:22 pm

Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:49 pm
Transmission errors? Analysis after the game finished? Or did Carlsen really blunder?

EDIT: It was a gross blunder. He thought there was a mate, presumably. :roll:
In fact I think "transmission errors" might be right, since the online services are now showing 56...Bc1 57 e7 1-0 where they previously had 56...Bc1 57 Kh3 Rxf5 58 e7 1-0.
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:27 pm

Shak reaches his highest ever live rating of 2817.7; Magnus down to 2835.1 (Caruana at 2822)
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:58 pm

Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:59 pm
So, we keep waiting for Magnus to get his form back. He starts tournaments with +2 after two or three rounds and each time we think "finally!". But we have really lost track of for how long this has carried on
In round 4, he almost effortlessly got a superior position against the tournament minnow - and then promptly messed it up.

That seemed to bother him, and he does seem more vulnerable to such things these days.

Having said that, if he gets a similar good start against Caruana it really *is* hard to see him getting caught. Even now.......
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Jonathan Rogers » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:59 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:10 pm
Jonathan Rogers wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:59 pm
by now all ordinary indicators are surely that Caruana is the favourite for the title
Slight exaggeration possibly
perhaps, because he (Carlsen) has still his slender rating lead, and we might also argue about the "ordinary indcators" are. But I do ask, in which event did Caruana last make a real impression on you? and now Carlsen?

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Re: Biel 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:00 pm

OK who else forgot it was an early start today
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:25 pm

Georgiadis has the sort of position you'd reckon you had every chance of winning if your opponent wasn't three hundred points stronger than you and you weren't down to about a quarter of an hour plus increments for more than twenty moves.
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by JustinHorton » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:40 pm

MVL wins at a canter in a very last-roundy game against Navara.
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:40 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:25 pm
Georgiadis has the sort of position you'd reckon you had every chance of winning if your opponent wasn't three hundred points stronger than you and you weren't down to about a quarter of an hour plus increments for more than twenty moves.
A good call, not quite sure how Magnus won that but he did!
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Re: Biel 2018

Post by Tim Harding » Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:51 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 3:40 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:25 pm
Georgiadis has the sort of position you'd reckon you had every chance of winning if your opponent wasn't three hundred points stronger than you and you weren't down to about a quarter of an hour plus increments for more than twenty moves.
A good call, not quite sure how Magnus won that but he did!
Georgiadis made a terrible blunder ...b3 (presumably envisaging ...Ba3) but after Nf3 going to d2 the sac doesn't work and he just loses the c4-pawn.
Instead he had various decent moves such as ...Be5 which could have simplified and made a draw pretty certain?
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