Sinquefield Cup

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by David Sedgwick » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:51 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:22 pm
Caruana v Nakamura drawn according to the online services, but possibly not according to real life
JustinHorton wrote:
Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:26 pm
Now giving 1-0 to Caruana which I'm much more prepared to believe.

This is the second time that I have noticed Chess24 have a wrong result briefly.

My advice is to turn on the commentary feed. That has been right on both occasions.

With Caruana v Nakamura, we actually saw Nakamura extend his hand in resignation.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Anthony Taglione » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:02 am

I believe that Chess24 is getting the feeds from the DGT boards. If the players start analysing at the table, the two kings could get moved to same-colour squares and that could get picked up as a draw, which will last until corrected. I see it fairly often there.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Nick Ivell » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:30 pm

Great to see a Tarrasch at this level. It will have its time again. I can safely say that Naka's h3 is not critical; I wish people would play that against me!

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Roger de Coverly » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:40 pm

Nick Ivell wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:30 pm
I can safely say that Naka's h3 is not critical
I suppose Naka knows why he played it. Does it perhaps make the .. c4 ideas less good? It doesn't seem to have been to safeguard a later Be3 against Ng4 as the Bishop went to f4. Perhaps his later g4 is a clue.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by LawrenceCooper » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:47 pm

Three draw so far Aronian-Anand, MVL-Caruana & Karjakin-Grischuk.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by LawrenceCooper » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:09 am

LawrenceCooper wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:47 pm
Three draw so far Aronian-Anand, MVL-Caruana & Karjakin-Grischuk.
Carlsen-So and Nakamura-Mamedyarov were also drawn.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Mick Norris » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:22 am

Nick Ivell wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:30 pm
Great to see a Tarrasch at this level. It will have its time again. I can safely say that Naka's h3 is not critical; I wish people would play that against me!
There's analysis at Chess Mind (where Dennis is back)
Any postings on here represent my personal views

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Matt Mackenzie » Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:57 pm

Benko gambit type thing from Carlsen :shock:
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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:13 pm

Matt Mackenzie wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:57 pm
Benko gambit type thing from Carlsen
That 9. .. Bf5 has been played before by World Champions, Kasparov, Anand and Topalov. An interesting idea that you intend to retake on a6 with the Knight.



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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Reg Clucas » Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:15 pm

Bad mistake by Aronian on move 11, allowing White to set up the Irish Pawn Centre! :)

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by LawrenceCooper » Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:20 pm

Caruana beat Karjakin to take the outright lead whilst Grischuk-Carlsen & Mamedyarov-MVL were drawn.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:31 pm

Huge drama in the Nakamura v Aronian ending
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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:47 pm

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:31 pm
Huge drama in the Nakamura v Aronian ending
If the chessbomb stockfish is to be believed, Aronian could have bailed out for a draw by using his Rooks actively. Instead he pushed his own g pawn, allowing Naka to queen a pawn thereby winning a Rook. The game continues, currently with the assessment that Naka's previously winning position is now "just better". It's two Rooks and one passed pawn against one Rook and three passed pawns.

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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by JustinHorton » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:56 pm

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:47 pm
JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:31 pm
Huge drama in the Nakamura v Aronian ending
If the chessbomb stockfish is to be believed, Aronian could have bailed out for a draw by using his Rooks actively. Instead he pushed his own g pawn, allowing Naka to queen a pawn thereby winning a Rook.
I'm guessing that Aronian thought his chosen sequence was winning, and realised too late that it lost. But it seems that Nakamura then missed the best line, and is now having to adjust.
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Re: Sinquefield Cup

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:28 am

JustinHorton wrote:
Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:56 pm
But it seems that Nakamura then missed the best line, and is now having to adjust.
Draw agreed/forced by repetition. If they don't repeat they have to "ask the arbiter", who I don't think is entitled to digital assistance to assist the decision as to whether the position is convincingly drawn