Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Chris Rice » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:38 pm

David Sedgwick wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:07 pm
He has given would-be players and arbiters an extra five days' notice of the dates.
Moscow seems to have got the thumbs down on the FB thread. So perhaps its the FIDE venue of choice when they've got no choice - Khanty-Mansiysk?

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Mick Norris » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:25 pm

It is reported that Karjakin has said Moscow
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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Roger de Coverly » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:46 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:25 pm
It is reported that Karjakin has said Moscow
It figures that if they are scheduling people to travel on December 25th, it's either somewhere that doesn't close for Christmas, or, like Russia, celebrates it on a different date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Russia

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Brian Towers » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:01 am

Roger de Coverly wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:46 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:25 pm
It is reported that Karjakin has said Moscow
It figures that if they are scheduling people to travel on December 25th, it's either somewhere that doesn't close for Christmas, or, like Russia, celebrates it on a different date.
I don't understand your point. Whenever you travel to somewhere you also travel from somewhere else.
Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:22 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:25 pm
It is reported that Karjakin has said Moscow


Yes that was a tweet from Tarjei Svensen to which Sutovsky responded on FB "I wouldn't advise to book your Moscow tickets yet" which again has left it up in the air. The official line is up on the FIDE site.

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Alex Holowczak » Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:45 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:01 pm
This is a bit ridiculous, how can players plan at such short notice and they don't even know where they are playing?
At least now they know to keep the dates free and not take up any other professional opportunities in the period.

Remember - the alternative is not to run the event at all. FIDE should be commended for trying to keep the event alive in 2018, but obviously the circumstances aren't ideal.

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by NickFaulks » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:42 pm

Alex Holowczak wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:45 pm
At least now they know to keep the dates free and not take up any other professional opportunities in the period.
Hastings is out, for instance.

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Chris Rice » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:07 pm

FIDE press statement

"Dear Chess Friends, FIDE World Rapid and Blitz Championships will take place in Russia. Exact venue to be announced on Monday, along with the publication of official regulations. Special visa treatment will be arranged."

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Chris Rice » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:40 am

Further comments from Sutovsky on FB:

"Apologies for another small delay. Friends, or if I still may, colleagues - it is a very tough task to pull a decent World Rapid and Blitz with such a short notice.
We could confirm on everything and publish last week the regulations with a modest prize fund. But the idea is to have a really high-level event, and securing about 2MLN USD for its budget is a tough call. FIDE leadership has decided it is better to take few more days, but to ensure few hundred thousands more for the prize fund. We count on your understanding in this regards, and we do our utmost to finalize everything by tomorrow."

It's astonishing that something like this can be put together at such short notice over the festive period (we still don't have the dates or the city involved) with a sponsor that's willing to kick in possibly up to $2million.

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by NickFaulks » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:29 am

Chris Rice wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:40 am
It's astonishing that something like this can be put together at such short notice over the festive period
It isn't so much of a festive period in Russia, but even so...

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Chris Rice » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:28 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:29 am
Chris Rice wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:40 am
It's astonishing that something like this can be put together at such short notice over the festive period
It isn't so much of a festive period in Russia, but even so...
Now we know the dates, starts Christmas Day ends on New Year's Eve and the city, St Petersburg

FIDE press statement on Twitter:

"Dear Chess Friends, FIDE World Rapid and Blitz Championships will take place in Saint Petersburg, Russia between December 25 (arrival day) and December 31 (departure day). The regulations will be published on the official FIDE website."

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Mick Norris » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:20 pm

Chris Rice wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:22 am
Mick Norris wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:25 pm
It is reported that Karjakin has said Moscow


Yes that was a tweet from Tarjei Svensen to which Sutovsky responded on FB "I wouldn't advise to book your Moscow tickets yet" which again has left it up in the air. The official line is up on the FIDE site.
Karjakin wrong again :wink:
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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by Christopher Kreuzer » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:20 pm

Worthy of comment. Indeed, the whole future direction of FIDE deserves a new thread.

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Re: Repercussions / Fallout from FIDE Elections?

Post by John McKenna » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:22 pm

There still seems to be, at least to me, a similarity been the two "Repercussions... " threads.

In this "Repercussion/Fallout from FIDE Elections" one uncertainty remains but just-in-time progress has been made as to where and when a forthcoming event will take place (see quotes below for details)...

While in my parallel " ...EU Referendum (Echo Chamber)" one there is still a great deal of doubt and uncertainty about when a much promised forthcoming event will happen.

[Edit - to remove satirical political comment.]
Christopher Kreuzer wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:20 pm
Worthy of comment. Indeed, the whole future direction of FIDE deserves a new thread.
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