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Most recent earlier discussion was in this thread here:Bodhana Sivanandan: youngest female IM ever
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Most recent earlier discussion was in this thread here:Bodhana Sivanandan: youngest female IM ever
Frederic Friedel wrote:Finally I took Bodhana and her father, Sivanandan Velayutham, to meet the Bundesliga team of Hamburg. I wanted her to play in the German league, and the management committee offered her a place in the Women's Bundesliga team. I insisted: she must play in the men's section. "But there she would have to face strong grandmasters," they said. Not a problem, I told them. Discussions are still ongoing, but we can expect to see Bodhana playing for Hamburg in the near future.
Having watched the 45-minute Chessbase India video (link in a previous post) where Bodhana talks through her games, I am struck by how even compared to a video interview she gave a few months ago she is much more confident about giving her views and explaining her thought processes, while also understanding the limits. That sweet spot of understanding between uncertainty and over-confidence.The English Chess Federation congratulates Bodhana, her family and her coaches on another historic achievement.
As a general rule, and in the absence of lockdown distortions, players who achieve their IM title at an early age, say by 13, get GM about two years later.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Sun Oct 25, 2026 6:17 pmIt is interesting that such commentators are confident enough to say this. Probably because they have seen this trajectory before and can recognise what they are seeing.
There's at least one player, whose name I've forgotten, who got the GM title by dint of winning the World Senior championship. That was probably several decades after he got the IM title.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 4:11 pmIs there some cutoff point where all those who attain IM by a certain (young) age have gone on to be GM (absent external factors)? Not sure if that could also be established.
Good point made in Leonard's FT article about the difference between amateurs and professionals.Leonard Barden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 4:28 pmhttps://www.ft.com/content/2643c89a-6e7 ... 25a6b1a6=1
Doc Brown in FT comments wrote:Why would you ask A.I.? You just had the question answered by the longest-running chess journalist of all time!
I was only half joking that it would be really amazing to have a group photo of all 44 if Nona Gaprindashvili is still active. Getting all 44 together might be an issue. Are some of them retired or reclusive? It is amazing that the surge only comes after 2000. Only six before 2001. Five in 2008 alone. Title ages are interesting as well. Half achieved the title under the age of 23. Play around with the table here:JustinHorton wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 4:48 pmI quite like the observation that no woman who has earned the Grandmaster title has ever died
Are you thinking of Larry Kaufman or Yuri Shabanov?Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 4:28 pmThere's at least one player, whose name I've forgotten, who got the GM title by dint of winning the World Senior championship. That was probably several decades after he got the IM title.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 4:11 pmIs there some cutoff point where all those who attain IM by a certain (young) age have gone on to be GM (absent external factors)? Not sure if that could also be established.
Jens Kristiansen won the World Seniors Championship in 2012.Brian Towers on chess stackexchange on 28 July 2025 wrote:7 so far. More than I thought.
In addition to the two mentioned in the original question, Jens Kristiansen and Divya Deshmukh, we have:
Yuri Shabanov in 2003 for winning the World Seniors
Larry Kaufman in 2008 for winning the World Seniors
Kenny Solomon in 2015 for winning the African Championship in December 2014
Abdelrahman Hesham in 2016 again for winning the African Championship
Roman Dehtiarov who will be awarded the title for winning the European Championship
Janis Klovans who became an IM in 1976 and a GM in 1997.Christopher Kreuzer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 5:04 pmAre you thinking of Larry Kaufman or Yuri Shabanov?Ian Thompson wrote: ↑Mon Oct 26, 2026 4:28 pmThere's at least one player, whose name I've forgotten, who got the GM title by dint of winning the World Senior championship. That was probably several decades after he got the IM title.
Would love to see those photos. Maybe copies still exist elsewhere 16 years later?he played the very strong Riga 1959 chess tournament (for which I have a very nice daily bulletin, unfortunately it is so brown the photos won't scan)