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Minor milestone passed!

Post by John Upham » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:09 am

I am happy to report that the 1,000th CoM test was taken this week. :D

CoM was launched on March 3rd, 2010.

434 students have registered on the web site : http://www.certificateofmerit.org.uk/ The bulk of these are children.

The allowance of free tests until the test has been passed has increased the number of repeat tests taken by the same student.

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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Matthew Turner » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:39 am

John,
I noticed this was upcoming, but 19 of the tests are mine and I haven't paid for one. Can you give us an idea of how many credits have been paid for/used?

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Post by John Upham » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:53 am

Matthew Turner wrote:John,
I noticed this was upcoming, but 19 of the tests are mine and I haven't paid for one. Can you give us an idea of how many credits have been paid for/used?
Of course but things are complicated by credits not being used up until tests were passed.

It was easy previously since I could query the number of Level One, Two and Three tests and that would tell me how many credits were used.

I need to code further admin queries!

One thing I would say is that I believe that the teaching materials should be available from the web site directly. Of course, this is a another huge amount of work for various people.

This does not deal with the large stockpile of booklets and DVDs stored at the ECF Office. We should now seriously consider distributing these materials to schools and Junior chess clubs.

What frustrates me is knowing that we have excellent teaching materials sitting on shelves.

ChessBase have given me the OK to put all of the video material onto YouTube. However, we really need to use the ChessBase media system on-line since the videos do not contain the chess board and pieces.
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by benedgell » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:36 pm

Matthew Turner wrote: ...19 of the tests are mine ...
I'm sure you'll pass Level One eventually. :wink:

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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:14 pm

John Upham wrote:I need to code further admin queries!
Are you able to quote the number paid for John?

I was tempted to move the CoM into the Archive section as I thought the project had almost been abandoned things were that quiet on the marketing front?
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by John Upham » Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:30 am

Carl Hibbard wrote:
I was tempted to move the CoM into the Archive section as I thought the project had almost been abandoned things were that quiet on the marketing front?
I'd rather you didn't as the users are still using and I am still providing support when needed!

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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:16 pm

Matthew Turner wrote:John,
I noticed this was upcoming, but 19 of the tests are mine and I haven't paid for one. Can you give us an idea of how many credits have been paid for/used?
Still no answer on this one?
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by John Upham » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:12 pm

Carl Hibbard wrote:
Matthew Turner wrote:John,
I noticed this was upcoming, but 19 of the tests are mine and I haven't paid for one. Can you give us an idea of how many credits have been paid for/used?
Still no answer on this one?

I will ask the Director of Finance...

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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:08 pm

What was the answer?
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:31 pm

Not noticed before but to quote

"NB. During the years 2008-10, £19,361 was spent on the Chess for Schools project and £14,139 on the Certificate of Merit. This expenditure was funded by an indefinite loan of £20,000 (interest at 6%) from the John Robinson Youth Chess Trust, an indefinite, interest-free loan of £20,000 (in effect, an injection of capital) from Chess Centre Ltd and sponsorship from LV=."

Ouch :oops:
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by John Upham » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:37 pm

Don't forget that CoM is the long term replacement for CoE. You need to factor that into the standard criticism.

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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:19 am

So sales to date for 2010/11 is £1,049 with an administration cost of £2,434 according to the budget report...

Am I reading that right in the spreadsheet?
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Carl Hibbard » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:01 am

Not many sales was the answer then:

7. The Board has taken the decision to terminate further expenditure on the Certificate of Merit (CoM) project.

Be nice to see how much was wasted on this one?
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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by Peter Turner » Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:51 am

You could also factor in how much has been lost by the decision to phase out the Certificate of Excellence which never cost the BCF/ECF a single penny. Over the years tens of thousands of pounds profit went to support junior chess from the CofE BUT isn't the CofM now due for success with the announced link-up with Mike Basman's UK Chess Challenge!!?? :wink: Or is this to be another unfulfilled dream?

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Re: Minor milestone passed!

Post by John Upham » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:42 am

Carl Hibbard wrote:So sales to date for 2010/11 is £1,049 with an administration cost of £2,434 according to the budget report...

Am I reading that right in the spreadsheet?
I suspect you are but I am not convinced by these figures one iota.

The sales of CoM product purchased via PayPal only are £1938

Sales via other means such as Credit card, cheques, BACS are unknown to me as the CoM database only records online sales via PayPal.

I spoke with the office CoM responsible person (Andrew Walker) and he was unable to account for the admin cost since he is not time sheeted and does not record any time spent on CoM.

I incurred travel costs for CoM for attending last years London Chess Classic for for days and those costs were less than 10% of the figure quoted.

The only person who has worked on CoM recently is the DoM and his time has been provided FoC AFAIK.

There is an ISP hosting fee of around £50 pa from Zen Internet.

So, I am baffled by these figures.

If you want to believe them then I cannot stop you!

Student number 810 registered on the 8th of this month.

1844 tests have been started.

30,416 questions have been asked.

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