National Stages 2019

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National Stages 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:11 pm

From what I can see, the SCCU position is:

Open Surrey Middlesex Sussex
Minor Counties Essex
u180 Middlesex Essex
u160 Middlesex Essex
u140 Kent Hertfordshire Essex
u120 Essex Hertfordshire Surrey
u100 Essex Berkshire

The MCCU position appears to be:

Open Leics, G Man
Minor Counties Lincs, Notts
u180 Warks, Worcs
u160 G Man, Notts
u140 Worcs, Notts, Leics
u120 Notts, Staffs, Derbys
u100 Warks, Staffs, Notts (Reserve)

Not sure about the other Unions
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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Jon Underwood » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:50 am

WECU is (I believe)

Minor: Devon
U180: Cornwall
U160: Devon
U140: Hampshire

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Jon Underwood » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:21 am

Also it seems Kent in minors.

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Michael Flatt » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:07 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:11 pm
From what I can see, the SCCU position is:

Open Surrey Middlesex Sussex
Minor Counties Essex
u180 Middlesex Essex
u160 Middlesex Essex
u140 Kent Hertfordshire Essex
u120 Essex Hertfordshire Surrey
u100 Essex Berkshire
Please, take care the SCCU list is still provisional!
There are likely to be some last minute updates before I submit the final list to the ECF National Controller

Michael
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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Michael Flatt » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:20 pm

Full list of nominations is now published on the County Championship page of the ECF website.
https://www.englishchess.org.uk/county- ... hips-2019/

The draw will be published there by 1st April, possibly on Thursday 27th March or shortly afterwards.

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Jon Underwood » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:34 am

Draw is up there now.

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by John Reyes » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:01 pm

where is the final's venue again?
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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Neil Graham » Thu May 09, 2019 10:25 am

Results so far :-

Two concessions/defaults in the preliminaries (as usual)

U160 - Cambridgeshire concede to Yorkshire 16-0
U140 - Leicestershire concede to Essex 16-0

and a result:-

U120 - Derbyshire 6.5 Hertfordshire 5.5

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Fri May 10, 2019 7:10 pm

Good luck to all the teams playing this weekend

The Open match between G Man and Sussex tomorrow was reduced to 12 boards by mutual agreement, but Sussex can only find 10 players

The U160 match between G Man and Suffolk is on Sunday

It doesn't seem a great weekend to choose to play to be honest; we're missing players at Rhyl (and maybe Harrogate for all I know) and because of the football on Sunday
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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by NickFaulks » Fri May 10, 2019 8:21 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 7:10 pm
but Sussex can only find 10 players
That is a sad state of affairs for an Open team, and I don't expect that it is the captain's fault. I wonder how many of his players couldn't face another run up the M1 so soon after last weekend's 4NCL.

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Fri May 10, 2019 8:49 pm

NickFaulks wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 8:21 pm
Mick Norris wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 7:10 pm
but Sussex can only find 10 players
That is a sad state of affairs for an Open team, and I don't expect that it is the captain's fault. I wonder how many of his players couldn't face another run up the M1 so soon after last weekend's 4NCL.
Strangely not the M1 as they agreed to play near Birmingham, which surprised me
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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Roger de Coverly » Fri May 10, 2019 9:09 pm

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 8:49 pm

Strangely not the M1 as they agreed to play near Birmingham, which surprised me
Sussex to Daventry, Telford or Birmingham is likely to be M23/M25/M40 rather than M23/M25/M1 if you go clockwise round London. Still the same Motorway trek as last weekend though.

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by David Sedgwick » Sat May 11, 2019 12:57 am

Mick Norris wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 7:10 pm
It doesn't seem a great weekend to choose to play to be honest; we're missing players at Rhyl (and maybe Harrogate for all I know) and because of the football on Sunday
You knew when you entered that you would be expected to play a Quarter Final on Saturday 11th May. Football on Sunday 12th May is a red herring.

Rhyl and Harrogate also knew the date, or should have done, when they arranged their congresses to clash.

Things are unlikely to change unless and until the ECF is prepared to protect its flagship competition by stipulating that conflicting events not specifically approved will not be eligible for grading.

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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by Mick Norris » Sat May 11, 2019 9:00 am

Yes we did David and we have had the same problem for years
I was told that we booked Syston today but somehow it got double booked and moved to tomorrow which means some of the team can't play
I am coming round to the idea of changing back to the system of playing the final stages in the Autumn
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Re: National Stages 2019

Post by J T Melsom » Sat May 11, 2019 10:48 am

I've played at Rhyl in the past and am not eligible to play for any county participating in the national stages. I don't think applying sanctions would achieve anything other than annoy the event organisers and threaten the viability of the events. I think there are good reasons why people might choose a congress instead of a county match, but others on this forum have also stated that they prefer county chess to 4NCL, so the more chess factor can be countered by the greater time demanded. Important to fully understand these factors and the extent of the overlap of players before rushing to any draconian measures.

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