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Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:10 pm
by Neil Graham
Semi-Final pairings as follows:-
Open : Lancashire v Sussex; Middlesex v Yorkshire
Minor : Surrey v Suffolk; Lincolnshire v Devon
U180 : Middlesex v Warwickshire; Yorkshire v Essex
U160 : Middlesex v Yorkshire; Lancashire v Essex
U140 : Yorkshire v Worcestershire; Nottinghamshire v Essex
U120 ; Warwickshire v Middlesex; Leicestershire v Norfolk
U100 ; Surrey v Leicestershire; Lancashire v Warwickshire
The U100 may be subject to change because of an eligibility query.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:28 pm
by Nigel White
Neil Graham wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 2:10 pm
U100 ; Surrey v Leicestershire; Lancashire v Warwickshire
The U100 may be subject to change because of an eligibility query.
I understand that the U100 result has been changed & consequently the semi-final will be Lancashire v Essex.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:19 am
by Neil Graham
LMS shows that Surrey have conceded their U100 match to Leicestershire by default.
This will mean an £100 fine for the offending county.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:12 am
by MartinCarpenter
I can see why you'd do that of course, but is that really a good idea to encourage future participation in a declining event?
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:16 am
by Nick Grey
Ouch. Anyway best wishes to any forumites playing or organising. Especially Surrey Minor Counties v Suffolk & our hosts.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:50 am
by David Sedgwick
MartinCarpenter wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:12 am
I can see why you'd do that of course, but is that really a good idea to encourage future participation in a declining event?
That question is rhetorical, of course.
Earlier this week, the ECF were seeking an arbiter for the match. I hope that they didn't find one.
I imagine that the matter will be raised at the forthcoming Annual General Meetings both of Surrey and of the SCCU.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:16 pm
by Mike Gunn
As the offending Surrey captain I should perhaps comment that we have plenty of eligible players who could have played but only 5 of the 35 I personally contacted were able to play on this particular date. Ironically I was (as far as I recall) the only person at a SCCU meeting who opposed this absurd £100 fine. I knew that the fine existed and it had no influence on whether we entered the team or the effort I put in to trying to raise a team. I think the only effect of this fine is to reduce the likelihood of many counties entering the national stage, bearing in mind the natural cautiousness of many chess-playing player/ organisers.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:51 pm
by Neil Graham
The first results are now in :-
Minor
Lincolnshire 10 Devon 6
Surrey 9.5 Suffolk 6.5
Final Lincolnshire v Surrey
Under 140
Nottinghamshire 9.5 Essex 6.5
Worcestershire lost to Yorkshire (my estimate is by about 10-6)
Final Nottinghamshire v Yorkshire
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:54 pm
by MartinCarpenter
I've a reliable report of Yorkshire winning their U180 semi by +3, so 9.5 - 6.5 I suppose.
And yes, the potential preemptive deterrent effect of this kind of fine was what worried me.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:02 pm
by Richard Thursby
Results from Birstall
U160
Middlesex 6 Yorkshire 10
Open
Middlesex 7 Yorkshire 9
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:09 pm
by Neil Graham
We could be in a position where there is only one SCCU team in the national finals.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:59 am
by Neil Graham
Under 180
Middlesex 7.5 Warwickshire 8.5
Essex 6.5 Yorkshire 9.5
Final Warwickshire v Yorkshire
Under 140 confirmed result (see above)
Yorkshire 9.5 Worcestershire 6.5
Some of the remaining matches are being played today.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:02 am
by MartinCarpenter
Very impressed with the Yorkshire open team winning with some of our very top players out this year for various reasons.
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:42 am
by Neil Graham
Open
Middlesex 7 Yorkshire 9
Lancashire 9 Sussex 7
Final : Yorkshire v Lancashire
Re: Semi-Final Pairings & Results
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:11 pm
by Andrew Zigmond
Mike Gunn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:16 pm
As the offending Surrey captain I should perhaps comment that we have plenty of eligible players who could have played but only 5 of the 35 I personally contacted were able to play on this particular date. Ironically I was (as far as I recall) the only person at a SCCU meeting who opposed this absurd £100 fine. I knew that the fine existed and it had no influence on whether we entered the team or the effort I put in to trying to raise a team. I think the only effect of this fine is to reduce the likelihood of many counties entering the national stage, bearing in mind the natural cautiousness of many chess-playing player/ organisers.
The £100 fine is surely intended to ensure that a decision to default a match in the national stages is not taken lightly. If people find the fine excessive or not necessary at all surely they can get a motion before Council? They're not normally shy about doing so.