Pedants United

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Paul Habershon
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Re: Pedants United

Post by Paul Habershon » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:37 am

MJMcCready wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:55 am
I came across 'I have lived there for all my life'. Do we need for + all in the same sentence? Doesn't seem so.
Agree about the redundancy - often seen also in getting something 'for free'.

Kevin Thurlow
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Re: Pedants United

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:56 am

'I have lived there for all my life'.

Yes - I recall my father being asked, "Have you lived all your life in Surrey?" "Not yet."

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Re: Pedants United

Post by MJMcCready » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:22 am

But the problem is even starting from Bishop Louth, prescriptivists couldn't agree on anything at all and since then standardization has taken something of a back seat so where does this leave it. David Crystal states in his 'The Story of English in 100 words' that the shift away form beginning sentences with conjunctions only came about because in Victorian times teachers became fed up of hearing in in the playground, even though they continued to do so themselves. Some adverb clauses begin with them and are accepted. 'Because it was raining, I brought my umbrella', and interchangeably, 'I brought my umbrella because it was raining'.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by David Sedgwick » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:04 am

John Saunders (in another thread) wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:12 am
It is nigh on 50 years since I played him. Neither of us had much appetite for the game, it being the third game on the Saturday of an Islington weekender (round 4, Islington Major, 12 December 1970 to be precise). Draw in 17 moves. Like Roger, I recognised the face. I can't remember what I had for lunch today but faces of one-time chess opponents still linger in the memory half a century later. RIP.
Most of us don't have lunch between midnight and 0212.

Paul Habershon
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Re: Pedants United

Post by Paul Habershon » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:52 am

David, that's truly in the nitpicking spirit of this thread. Yes, his post in the Woolley obituary was timed at 0212. It's a fair bet he can remember what he had for lunch on any given day, but that's journalistic licence for you.

While I'm here: '...Labour voters had only leant Mr Johnson their support...' (Times, 17 Nov., p.23). Not one to be picked up by a spellchecker.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Ian Thompson » Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:45 pm

Not sure this is pedantry, but I was amused to read that ChessBase has a sale on today where they say you can buy products at "premium prices".

Perhaps something has been lost in translation.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Neil Graham » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:41 pm

Not particularly part of this but I didn't want to open a separate thread.

The BBC Website today announced three special Vicar of Dibley episodes over Christmas which included appearances by cast members James Fleet as Hugo Horton and Roger Lloyd Pack as Owen Newitt.

I did send an e-mail saying this would be a remarkable reappearance by Roger who died in 2014.

I see the website has been amended and the above co-star references have disappeared. :roll:

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Paul Habershon » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:11 pm

Just heard it again: 'lingerie' - not that I need to buy any - but how should you pronounce it?

So many people say 'longeray' getting the soft g right but not much else, in my opinion. The first syllable should surely be like the first in tangerine (as in vingt-et-un in French). The final syllable should rhyme with bee not bay. I'm not saying we should say Paree instead of Paris, but longeray is an unnecessary mangling of the French word.

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Re: Pedants United

Post by Kevin Thurlow » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:44 pm

Lingerie - I assumed was langeree, where the "g" is sort of "zh"...

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